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  1. Posts : 120
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    Logging in automatically from sandboxed browser


    Hi

    Further to my question re-sandboxing here, I was today browsing the internet when I arrived at a site where I needed to log in. Now I use Dashlane password manager which logs in automatically to most of the sites I visit but on this ocassion it wouldn't. I therefore fired up Firefox unsandboxed went to the same site and lo and behold it DID log in. Since then I've tried it on a few sites which require me to log in and if my browser is in a sandbox it won't sign in.

    My question therefore is: how can I log in automatically when my browser is running in a sandbox? Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you.

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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Which sandbox? sandboxie?

    Dashlane - Sandboxie Support

    You may wish to check the answer on the sandbox's forum.
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  3. Posts : 120
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    Thanks Dalchina

    Yes, I'm using Sandboxie nd thanks for the link. However, it seems I have to force the program but I'm still not registered for it yet so can't force anything. Nevertheless I'll bear the link in mind and see how we go.

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  4. bro67's Avatar
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    All current Web Browsers already Sandbox by nature. Firefox and Chrome have been using Sandbox tech. for quite a while.
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
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    Hi, as I don't use current build Firefox (I use Waterfox which runs with legacy plugins) I've only read about sandboxing in FF which is nothing like what Sandboxie would do.

    Is this what you're referring to? Thanks!
    How to change Firefoxs Sandbox security level - gHacks Tech News
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  6. bo elam's Avatar
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    TraceyW said:
    HiMy question therefore is: how can I log in automatically when my browser is running in a sandbox? Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you.
    You need a setting in Sandboxie to help Dashlane (the plugin) running in the sandbox communicate with the program outside the sandbox. Right now, you have no communication, thats why you have a problem. This settng opens a hole in the sandbox that allows the needed communication and fixes compatibility. For popular programs, Sandboxie developers creates the settings but for programs like Dashlane, that not many Sandboxie users are using, we users do them ourselves. Figuring out the files you need to open access to is fairly easy to figure most of the time. Sometimes is not easy but most of the time it is once you learn how to do it. I am totally unfamiliar with Dashlane or password managers but tried testing the program to see if I can come up with what you need to allow access to outside the sandbox but stopped doing it when I was asked to create an account.

    According to what I read about Daslane, the program installs a plugin together with the program. The file you need to allow access to is probably located in the Dashlane folder in AppData. So, what you need is to figure the Dashlane file in AppData that you need the sandboxed plugin have access to. If you can figure that out, more than liely your issue wiill be solved.

    Once you know the name of the file, you add it under Resource access (either Direct access or Full access), Look at the picture below and read what it says under Direct access and Full access. For some programs, you'll need to do more than what I am talking about. Dashlane being a password manager might be of this kind.

    In the picture below, also look under Applications. There you ll find many settings designed to make compatibility better with many programs. They were developed by Sandboxie to make things easier for users. Some are needed, some are not. And some are obsolete. So, if you are using a program that's listed there, and the program is working fine with SBIE without using the setting, then dont use the setting.

    Also, I doubt you need to force Dashlane in order to work sandboxed. In other words, if it works with SBIE, it ll work in both, free and paid versions.

    Logging in automatically from sandboxed browser-1.jpg

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  7. Posts : 120
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    Hi Bo
    Thanks for your input but just at the moment I'm seriously considering letting things go on as they are since my health has taken a bit of a dip I can do without and I can't concentrate on much just at the moment. Nevertheless, your post may well help others who are asking the same question and when I can I'll get back to it and sort it out on my PC. Not very encouraging I know but its how things stand at present.
    Tracey
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  8. ab1kenobee's Avatar
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    bo elam said:
    You need a setting in Sandboxie to help Dashlane (the plugin) running in the sandbox communicate with the program outside the sandbox. Right now, you have no communication, thats why you have a problem. This settng opens a hole in the sandbox that allows the needed communication and fixes compatibility. For popular programs, Sandboxie developers creates the settings but for programs like Dashlane, that not many Sandboxie users are using, we users do them ourselves. Figuring out the files you need to open access to is fairly easy to figure most of the time. Sometimes is not easy but most of the time it is once you learn how to do it. I am totally unfamiliar with Dashlane or password managers but tried testing the program to see if I can come up with what you need to allow access to outside the sandbox but stopped doing it when I was asked to create an account.

    According to what I read about Daslane, the program installs a plugin together with the program. The file you need to allow access to is probably located in the Dashlane folder in AppData. So, what you need is to figure the Dashlane file in AppData that you need the sandboxed plugin have access to. If you can figure that out, more than liely your issue wiill be solved.

    Once you know the name of the file, you add it under Resource access (either Direct access or Full access), Look at the picture below and read what it says under Direct access and Full access. For some programs, you'll need to do more than what I am talking about. Dashlane being a password manager might be of this kind.

    In the picture below, also look under Applications. There you ll find many settings designed to make compatibility better with many programs. They were developed by Sandboxie to make things easier for users. Some are needed, some are not. And some are obsolete. So, if you are using a program that's listed there, and the program is working fine with SBIE without using the setting, then dont use the setting.

    Also, I doubt you need to force Dashlane in order to work sandboxed. In other words, if it works with SBIE, it ll work in both, free and paid versions.

    Logging in automatically from sandboxed browser-1.jpg

    Bo

    @bo elam ... thank you one more time!

    I have been experiencing compatibility issues with LastPass... but their tech support is abysmal (0 of 5).

    I have been researching ALTERNATIVES to LP:

    REVIEWS




    ... and leaning towards Dashlane vs. Keeper.


    I just wanted to confirm that I can get Dashlane to work with SANDBOXIE.


    Thank you much!


    ~ Alan
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  9. bo elam's Avatar
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    ab1kenobee said:
    @bo elam ... thank you one more time!

    I have been experiencing compatibility issues with LastPass... but their tech support is abysmal (0 of 5).

    I have been researching ALTERNATIVES to LP:

    REVIEWS




    ... and leaning towards Dashlane vs. Keeper.


    I just wanted to confirm that I can get Dashlane to work with SANDBOXIE.


    Thank you much!


    ~ Alan
    Hi Alan, a few months ago before posting in this thread I tried testing installing Dashlane to see if I could figure out how to setup Sandboxie and Dashlane to make them work together, but unfortunately, creating an account with Dashlane was required, so I didnt test.

    Read my post you quoted. There I wrote exactly what you got to do. But I ll add more details that might help you. Understand this, for Dashlane running inside the sandbox to work with Dashlane outside the sandbox, they need to communicate. By default, there is no communication. So, right now, there is no communication between Dashlane inside the sandbox and the outside environment, the result of this lack of communication makes Dashlane and Sandboxie non compatible. Communication means.....Dashlane running inside the sandbox having access to Dashlane files that are outside the sandbox that the program requires to have access to in order to work properly (usually this files are located in the programs folder in AppData).

    For many programs, programs that are popular, Sandboxie developers over the years have created Sandbox settings that can be enabled via Sandbox settings. When you enable this settings, a small hole is open in the sandbox, and the communication between the sandboxed program and the outside environment takes place. The end result, is that by doing this, you achieve compatibility between Sandboxie and the program you want to run sandboxed. In the particular case of Dashlane, there have never been any settings developed for it to work with SBIE. This settings not existing, doesn't mean that Dashlane wont work with Sandboxie, it only means that the setting has never been developed and/or Dashlane has not been popular with Sandboxe users.

    So, to achieve this communication, you have to create the settings yourself. You need to find out the files outside the sandbox that Dashlane requires access to. When you find out what this files are, then you allow the sandboxed browser to have access to this files, communication takes place, and Sandboxie and Dashlane will work together.

    I know it sounds complicated but is not, is easy once you start doing it. And get in the habit of doing it. By doing this things yourself, you ll also learn about Sandboxie and things that are about Sandboxie that you never thought about.

    So, how do you find out the files that Dashlane requires the sandboxed browser having access to, how should you proceed to learn what this files are? One way to do it is to open a non sandboxed file explorer while running the browser unsandboxed and go into the Dashlane folder in AppData and look at the changes the program is making when you login somewhere, look at the time stamp of the files in that folder. For example, if you login at Tenforums at 9PM today, and immediately go the Dashlane folder in AppData and you see 3 files having a 9PM time stamp, is likely those are the files you need to allow Firefox in the sandbox to have access. Please remember, I am totally unfamiliar with Dashlane but as I understand it, it installs a plugin. If that's the case, then I am correct assuming that it communicates to the outside environment using Firefox. And the process I am telling you should work.

    If figuring out the file or files becomes hard, then you could allow Firefox access to the entire Dashlane folder in AppData. This is not the best but is OK for a beginning and later, you can change the settings if needed.

    To create the setting. Look at the picture in the post you quoted. Thats where you want to go.

    Sandbox settings>Resource access>File access>Direct access, in the Drop down window to the right, select Firefox, if Firefox is not in the list, Click Add program, and select firefox.exe. By doing this, only firefox.exe will have access to Dashlane fiiles, otherwise, any program running in the sandbox will also have access to Dashlane files. For security, you dont want that, ony firefox.exe should be allowed this access.

    After you select firefox.exe, Click Add, and navigate to the files you are going to allow Firefox access to, or the Dashlane folder in AppData, and select it. Click Apply. Thats it, Alan. Test and see what happens.

    Note: Some programs want to do more than Sandboxie allows, there is a limit to what Sandboxie allows programs to do. If Dashlane is one of this programs, then you wont be able to use it with Sandboxie.

    Bo
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  10. ab1kenobee's Avatar
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    @bo elam ... thank you again... excellent tutorial... much appreciate!




    My ANTIVIRUS, WebRoot, has partnered with LastPass... TERRIBLE tech support.




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    Free, open source alternatives to LastPass | ITworld



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    Password managers: best alternative to LastPass (besides Keepass)? : privacy


    .........................


    I was leaning towards Dashlane until I read the following user posts:

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    LastPass Review - Updated 2019


    .........................



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    https://www.cloudwards.net/dashlane-vs-1password/


    .........................


    After hours of research... it looks like I am going to go with Keeper for the following consistent compliments poured out by its users... the only PASSWORD software I have found where its users have paid such tribute and accolades!


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    Dashlane VS 1Password: Who Will Win This 2019 Battle?



    I have to say that I am grateful for having the Internet and the wonderful website resources cited above to help make well informed decisions. It's time consuming... but it's great!!!... NO GUARANTEES... but beats the pants off IGNORANCE and making BLIND DECISIONS.
    @bo elam - Much appreciate your efforts and willingness to be so helpful!

    ~ Alan



    [AB:I have inserted color annotations for easier reading of the following instructions.]




    bo elam said:
    Hi Alan, a few months ago before posting in this thread I tried testing installing Dashlane to see if I could figure out how to setup Sandboxie and Dashlane to make them work together, but unfortunately, creating an account with Dashlane was required, so I didnt test.

    Read my post you quoted. There I wrote exactly what you got to do. But I ll add more details that might help you. Understand this, for Dashlane running inside the sandbox to work with Dashlane outside the sandbox, they need to communicate. By default, there is no communication. So, right now, there is no communication between Dashlane inside the sandbox and the outside environment, the result of this lack of communication makes Dashlane and Sandboxie non compatible. Communication means.....Dashlane running inside the sandbox having access to Dashlane files that are outside the sandbox that the program requires to have access to in order to work properly (usually this files are located in the programs folder in AppData).

    For many programs, programs that are popular, Sandboxie developers over the years have created Sandbox settings that can be enabled via Sandbox settings. When you enable this settings, a small hole is open in the sandbox, and the communication between the sandboxed program and the outside environment takes place. The end result, is that by doing this, you achieve compatibility between Sandboxie and the program you want to run sandboxed. In the particular case of Dashlane, there have never been any settings developed for it to work with SBIE. This settings not existing, doesn't mean that Dashlane wont work with Sandboxie, it only means that the setting has never been developed and/or Dashlane has not been popular with Sandboxe users.

    So, to achieve this communication, you have to create the settings yourself. You need to find out the files outside the sandbox that Dashlane requires access to. When you find out what this files are, then you allow the sandboxed browser to have access to this files, communication takes place, and Sandboxie and Dashlane will work together.

    I know it sounds complicated but is not, is easy once you start doing it. And get in the habit of doing it. By doing this things yourself, you ll also learn about Sandboxie and things that are about Sandboxie that you never thought about.

    So, how do you find out the files that Dashlane requires the sandboxed browser having access to, how should you proceed to learn what this files are? One way to do it is to open a non sandboxed file explorer while running the browser unsandboxed and go into the Dashlane folder in AppData and look at the changes the program is making when you login somewhere, look at the time stamp of the files in that folder. For example, if you login at Tenforums at 9PM today, and immediately go the Dashlane folder in AppData and you see 3 files having a 9PM time stamp, is likely those are the files you need to allow Firefox in the sandbox to have access. Please remember, I am totally unfamiliar with Dashlane but as I understand it, it installs a plugin. If that's the case, then I am correct assuming that it communicates to the outside environment using Firefox. And the process I am telling you should work.

    If figuring out the file or files becomes hard, then you could allow Firefox access to the entire Dashlane folder in AppData. This is not the best but is OK for a beginning and later, you can change the settings if needed.

    To create the setting. Look at the picture in the post you quoted. Thats where you want to go.

    Sandbox settings>Resource access>File access>Direct access, in the Drop down window to the right, select Firefox, if Firefox is not in the list, Click Add program, and select firefox.exe. By doing this, only firefox.exe will have access to Dashlane fiiles, otherwise, any program running in the sandbox will also have access to Dashlane files. For security, you dont want that, ony firefox.exe should be allowed this access.

    After you select firefox.exe, Click Add, and navigate to the files you are going to allow Firefox access to, or the Dashlane folder in AppData, and select it. Click Apply. Thats it, Alan. Test and see what happens.

    Note: Some programs want to do more than Sandboxie allows, there is a limit to what Sandboxie allows programs to do. If Dashlane is one of this programs, then you wont be able to use it with Sandboxie.

    Bo
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