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  1.    10 Apr 2018 #71

    Josey Wales said: View Post
    Yes Mike it will work with M-2 Drives. I do not have one.
    SM will not work with m.2 drives. That is the first point to correct. The second is that you can point SM software to any Samsung drive that supports it, NOT just your system drive. OldMike65 gets what I was trying to say from the beginning of this conversation. You can use SM as you need to. Any supported drive can be used, but only on that single drive. It can not be split between two drives. Although, as I pointed out earlier, it should be able to by now as Samsung has the ability to make that a reality, but don't seem to care enough about it to implement.
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       10 Apr 2018 #72

    smactilactus said: View Post
    SM will not work with m.2 drives.
    Now I have to correct this correction.

    SM works with 2.5" SATA, mSATA and M.2 SATA drives, but not with M.2 NVMe drives. In other words, any SATA SSD that is of Samsung brand and has been added to the supported list.


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  3.    10 Apr 2018 #73

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,
    I don't see any mention of these drives requiring a NVMe driver and SM mentions it supports Rapid Mode for these. Never heard of a SATA drive (regardless of support format) needing a NVMe driver to work.... Cheers,
    I think the problem with your pov of these drives, is that they all come in NON m.2 forms, and that is what SM works with. The Samsung techs have told me that SM does NOT work with m.2 drives, because they don't need it. Those drives you mentioned also come in 2.5" form factors, and those are the ones supported by SM rapid mode.
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  4.    10 Apr 2018 #74

    smactilactus said: View Post
    I think the problem with your pov of these drives, is that they all come in NON m.2 forms, and that is what SM works with. The Samsung techs have told me that SM does NOT work with m.2 drives, because they don't need it. Those drives you mentioned also come in 2.5" form factors, and those are the ones supported by SM rapid mode.
    YES!!!! Exactly Correct !!!!
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  5.    10 Apr 2018 #75

    slicendice said: View Post
    Now I have to correct this correction.

    SM works with 2.5" SATA, mSATA and M.2 SATA drives, but not with M.2 NVMe drives. In other words, any SATA SSD that is of Samsung brand and has been added to the supported list.
    I am only relaying the information given to me by Samsung, and my own experience. According to Samsung, rapid mode will NOT work on m.2 sata drives. I also have a m.2 sata Samsung drive, and rapid mode does not work on it.

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       10 Apr 2018 #76

    slicendice said: View Post
    Your Rapid Mode issue could be related to where you have the SSD connected. Have you tried to connect it to the exact same port as the smaller drive is connected to right now?
    1. I do not have an issue.
    2. How do I connect two SSD's into the same SATA II Port?
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  7.    10 Apr 2018 #77

    slicendice said: View Post
    Now I have to correct this correction.

    SM works with 2.5" SATA, mSATA and M.2 SATA drives, but not with M.2 NVMe drives. In other words, any SATA SSD that is of Samsung brand and has been added to the supported list.


    Read the Documentation
    Depends on what we are saying here, I have Samsung ssd's installed, and my M.2 drive uses a NVMe driver, SM can SEE this drive with no problem, can also update its firmware. BUT you can't run rapid mode on this drive. Think this was the discussion originally, I could be wrong thou.
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  8.    10 Apr 2018 #78

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Depends on what we are saying here, I have Samsung ssd's installed, and my M.2 drive uses a NVMe driver, SM can SEE this drive with no problem, can also update its firmware. BUT you can't run rapid mode on this drive. Think this was the discussion originally, I could be wrong thou.
    The original discussion is that Josey Wales said he could not use rapid mode on one of this drives, and I said he should be able to, as that drive is listed as being supported. Then he said it was not a sys drive and so it wouldn't work on a non-sys drive. So I showed him that I had it on a non-sys drive, and that he should try to change settings, or reload the software...
    And all of this came from that.
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       10 Apr 2018 #79

    OK, but SM951 has never been added to the supported list. Do you have an M.2 850 or 860 EVO to test?
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       10 Apr 2018 #80

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Depends on what we are saying here, I have Samsung ssd's installed, and my M.2 drive uses a NVMe driver, SM can SEE this drive with no problem, can also update its firmware. BUT you can't run rapid mode on this drive. Think this was the discussion originally, I could be wrong thou.
    Yes you are correct
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