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  1.    20 Aug 2015 #11
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin2161 View Post
    Hi There,
    I am trying to set up Windows 10 Cortana. 1. You sign in to your Microsoft account, 2. Then, it asks you to enter your "Old Password" one last time. I have tried for hours, putting in every old password i ever used for my Microsoft account. I get "Red lettering" (which if I see one more time?) saying wrong password. Would someone please explain to me step by step how the heck I use Windows 10 Highly advertised "Cortan". Thank you for anyone's help in this matter. Thank You, Kevin2161
    Kevin, it turns out that the "old password" refers to your Windows user password, not a Microsoft account password. In an effort to get people to create/use Microsoft accounts, Microsoft wants you to abandon logging into Windows with your Windows username and password, and instead use your Microsoft account username and password. Thus, if you're still using your Windows username and password to log into Windows, you'll have to enter this as the "old password" when enabling Cortana. The reason they call it the "old password" (while not telling you which password!) is that in addition to enabling Cortana, it will secretly in the background change your Windows logon to require your Microsoft account info instead of your "old" logon info.

    Once I got through this, Cortana worked. I tried it out for a couple of hours, found it worthless, and completely removed it from my system (which is also not straightforward; there's another thread devoted to that).
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  2.    20 Aug 2015 #12
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 18
    Windows 10

    Wait.. you guys mean to say one cannot even use Cortanna without being signed into a Microsoft account? I didn't know that and nothing I've read from Microsoft says that either. - and some settings are linked into Bing.com too .. you have to be logged into a Bing account to turn off some data Cortana sends to Microsoft. I wondered how this bing account is even around because no one says you have to have one for Cortana. I assume they mean for you to already be signed into to Bing via your Microsoft account.

    Looks like to experience Cortanna I need to set up a dual boot with another copy of Windows 8 Core to use for my daily OS and have a copy of Windows 10 activated on another partition so I can use my MS account for Cortanna - then Only Ever use Win 10/ Cortana with false and fake information and keep that OS from doing anything else. forever empty.

    MICROSOFT YOU SUCK!
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  3.    20 Aug 2015 #13
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Lothar View Post
    Wait.. you guys mean to say one cannot even use Cortanna without being signed into a Microsoft account?
    Seems that way. I guess since Cortana is meant to be cross-platform, it has to store all your information (schedule, browsing habits, etc.) in "the cloud" (and by "the cloud" I mean the servers of Microsoft's marketing department). That way if you set an alarm while at work, it will be on your home computer later.

    My experience with Cortana is that for most of what I asked it would just open a browser window to the Bing entry on the topic. Which is why I deleted it.
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  4.    20 Aug 2015 #14
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 119
    Windows 7 (reverted back)

    Cortana will share your contacts with Microsoft !

    I for one would NOT be grateful if one of the people I work with would make my details public.
    I thinks we all have a responsibility to avoid sharing too much information with multi nationals

    Cortana is a TOY that is not going to help you much in daily life
    Also your co-workers and people living with you, might not appreciate when you are "shouting" commands into your computer.
    So unless you are a horder living by yourself without a social life and without contacts.... I can't imagine a good reason to activate Cortana....
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  5.    06 Sep 2015 #15
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 1
    Windows 10

    Wrong Password


    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin2161 View Post
    Hi There,
    I am trying to set up Windows 10 Cortana. 1. You sign in to your Microsoft account, 2. Then, it asks you to enter your "Old Password" one last time. I have tried for hours, putting in every old password i ever used for my Microsoft account. I get "Red lettering" (which if I see one more time?) saying wrong password. Would someone please explain to me step by step how the heck I use Windows 10 Highly advertised "Cortan". Thank you for anyone's help in this matter. Thank You, Kevin2161
    The "Old Password" is the password to your local account. It is about to change your local account to a Microsoft Account. If you don't mind this, then enter your local account password. If you think this is overly intrusive of Microsoft, don't do it and let Cortana die.
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  6.    24 Oct 2015 #16
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Minnesota
    Posts : 48
    Windows 10 Pro

    This is what I did:
    I first went to Search the web and Windows. I gave Cortana my name and she instructed me to do a MS account. I created another account and cranked up User Account Control settings to super strict. Then, I logged in to that account, and did the setup. I entered in my info and a UAC prompt came up. I clicked no and voila, I was a semi MS account with Cortana
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  7.    24 Oct 2015 #17
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    SoCal, USA
    Posts : 463
    Windows 10 Home and Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Lothar View Post
    Wait[...]and some settings are linked into Bing.com too .. you have to be logged into a Bing account to turn off some data Cortana sends to Microsoft. I wondered how this bing account is even around because no one says you have to have one for Cortana. I assume they mean for you to already be signed into to Bing via your Microsoft account.[...]
    Bing IS your Microsoft account. It is all one account you use, either to sign in to onedrive, outlook.com, the computer, or anything. You can also set up your computer login account to require Pin only, so you don't have to type in a complicated MS password all the time.

    Don't like MS accounts? Don't use one and miss out on some of the features that come with it. Or use Apple. MS did say very specifically some features are linked to a MS account before you upgraded. You read and accepted the license terms before upgrading. Remember?
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  8.    25 Oct 2015 #18
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 244
    Windows 10 Home

    Apparently, with the big update in November, you will be able to use Cortana with a local account. Some of the people testing the insider previews have already got that facility.
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  9.    25 Oct 2015 #19
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Minnesota
    Posts : 48
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Cornishman View Post
    Apparently, with the big update in November, you will be able to use Cortana with a local account. Some of the people testing the insider previews have already got that facility.
    Yes, Microsoft is apparently getting over themselves and make local accounts act like MS accounts
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