as i think i said, the downlod didn't take 6 hours, the full download and install etc did.

if it told me, i missed it. AVS told me there were updates available, i did a check and it was already downloading, just listed it as above.

I booted my Win10 machine up and it ended up d/ling something it just called "feature upgrade to version 1709", no other details. took yonks to d/l, hours to install, then about another hour to...