Windows 10: Upgraded motherboard, much slower boot time

  1.    06 Dec 2017 #1

    Upgraded motherboard, much slower boot time


    I feel like windows 10 is back to Vista performance at boot. I'm thinking about a clean install but would like to discuss it with you guys.

    Previous motherboard and CPU: Asrock Pro3 Gen3 i2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 16 GB Ram.
    New motherboard and CPU: Asus Prime X399 TR 1950x @ stock, 32 GB Ram.

    On my old board I was in RAID, so I unmounted a RAID array and switched back to AHCI.
    I just then booted up with the new motherboard and Win10 did a great job, no BSOD, nothing, just booted after installing new peripherals.

    It's longer now to get to the welcome screen. I've got autologon enabled, and it's also much longer to get to the desktop also. I see the SSD LED always at ON, I find it odd.

    I'm on Creator update. I tested my SSD with AS-SSD, it's slower than what it was but not that much.

    I've run the boot tracer and I'm not sure there is anything special, it's just long to boot. SSD is solicited more than the CPU (hope so!), but it's not at 100%.

    Thanks for you suggestions.
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  2.    06 Dec 2017 #2

    Oh and I updated the graphic driver and reinstalled Logitech gaming software which was not working after the upgrade.
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  3.    06 Dec 2017 #3

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  4.    08 Dec 2017 #4

    Hi there
    did you after getting rid of RAID re-format the HDD's again.

    Check also in the BIOS that all parameters are set correctly

    With that hardware the system should really be fast.

    Further checks :

    1) GPU (graphics) is functioning correctly and all components properly installed.

    2) Correct memory type -- no mix of DDR4 and DDR3.

    3) SSD is on the fastest SATA connector -- sometimes Mobos have 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s SATA ports -- choose the fastest. If it's SATA II then even better.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       08 Dec 2017 #5

    I'm having weird SATA performance on a new mobo/CPU/RAM as well (all the right types, it's a Ryzen 7/1700, good mobo (Gigabyte AB350 Gaming and not bottom end DDR4 Corsair RAM), and the optimizing drive service was already running and all the SATA ports (6) on this mobo are 6's.
    One drive takes eternity to access it in the file manager I use, and even if I go directory to directory it's almost as if it parks after every command, and my boot up time is horrific considering I wipe and dropped a fresh wipe of said SSD completely.

    I was using Kerish Doctor 2017, but it gets a nasty error that hangs itself and their own support said they couldn't fix it. LOL!

    I am not getting any BSOD or anything and I have managed to play at least 1 pretty intensive game for many hours, so the system is otherwise working OK.

    I did the verify windows file integrity check: PASSED
    The hard drives are all defragged (sans SSD).
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  6.    08 Dec 2017 #6

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    2) Correct memory type -- no mix of DDR4 and DDR3.
    Wait what ??

    Otherwise, thanks for your tips.

    For the SATA, I'm not on port #1 for my main OS SSD. Before the upgrade it was not in RAID with any other SSD, others were. I tested with AS-SSD and it is not on SATA3, I get 500 MB/s.

    Since the post I continued troubleshooting. I saved an image of my C: and tested multiple things. SYSPREP didn't help enough, it was still slow until the welcome screen, but faster after that with that new user. I thought of creating a new user on my saved image but skipped this and started a new installation, it was faster (thanks to Win10 it's a 5 minutes process with a USB3 flash drive!!). PC was back to normal speed. I then used Transwiz to get back my old user and it was still fast, I'm satisfied with it now, at least I got back my settings, I just need to reinstall the applications.

    However I got freezes at reboot during the shutdown process after installing AMD HD7800 drivers. This driver does not like ThreadRipper motherboard.
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  7.    08 Dec 2017 #7

    Badfinger said: View Post
    I'm having weird SATA performance on a new mobo/CPU/RAM as well (all the right types, it's a Ryzen 7/1700, good mobo (Gigabyte AB350 Gaming and not bottom end DDR4 Corsair RAM), and the optimizing drive service was already running and all the SATA ports (6) on this mobo are 6's.
    One drive takes eternity to access it in the file manager I use, and even if I go directory to directory it's almost as if it parks after every command, and my boot up time is horrific considering I wipe and dropped a fresh wipe of said SSD completely.

    I was using Kerish Doctor 2017, but it gets a nasty error that hangs itself and their own support said they couldn't fix it. LOL!

    I am not getting any BSOD or anything and I have managed to play at least 1 pretty intensive game for many hours, so the system is otherwise working OK.

    I did the verify windows file integrity check: PASSED
    The hard drives are all defragged (sans SSD).

    Did you upgrade your motherboard without reinstalling Windows ?

    I concluded after all this that Win10 doesn't like to have its motherboard changed. I did a SYSPREP at work on a computer and windows was slow as hell on a different model in comparison to the others with similar hardware to the original installation.

    Using SYSPREP with a Win7 machine was all fine, but for Win10, it's better to reinstall. And now with the activation saved to the MS account, it's not an issue to upgrade a PC.
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  8. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       08 Dec 2017 #8

    I did a fresh main SSD wipe and drop of Windows 10 via newest image download off the internet on another computer.
    I have Windows 7 Ultimate Retail and had done the free update, I know now that M$ will need called for any main hardware change again.

    I read some more threads and I am running a bit better now.

    I was very sleepy when I was working on it, but I put Optimize drives service to MANUAL, it was on auto.
    I don't need auto-defrag, I'll manually handle that.


    I used Glary Utils (free or pay for extra features) and saw a huge list of hidden otherwise to the user, SCHEDULED items and disabled them, any that Windows felt was critical (guessing) were automatically rescheduled, my boot time was well over a minute, up from about 20 secs on my old 10 before the hardware failure, in my case it was the motherboard SATA controller that failed.


    I am old CNE, MCP, and A+ guy, so yeah I have a smidge of knowledge.

    This 10 though the performance was terrible considering the hardware.

    Right now getting about 65M/sec+ big files transfer from one drive to another while still listening to MP3, Steam is doing some downloads/updates and typing this with no interruptions to anything.

    Another thing, I ran O&O ShutUp10 latest version (free anti-M$ spy tool) and did the recommended settings + a few more.
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  9.    08 Dec 2017 #9

    A SSD is the cheapest way to make you PC much faster. 128gb for the OS and the rest on your hard drive.
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