Windows 10: Brand new laptop slower than old one

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  1. Posts : 43
    Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.165)
       07 Nov 2017 #1

    Brand new laptop slower than old one


    Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo ideapad 320. The specs are in the "System Two" tab of the 'My Computers' info below.

    The problem is everything runs much slower than my older laptop ("System One" below). The worst issue is that Chrome takes 13 seconds to launch a completely blank window, and another 20 full seconds for the the window to render the toolbars, tabs, etc. So, 33 seconds to launch a browser to its usable state.

    Other browsers, my email client, and other apps/programs also take much longer to start up than they did on the old machine; and that machine was laden with much more stuff (web development software, music production software, etc.)

    Did I buy a dud, or is it simply built with less powerful components?

    btw... switching to an SSD is not an option for me at this time.
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  2.    07 Nov 2017 #2

    Better have a look here the AMD is better in some but not all areas than the i3 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/501..._i3-7100U.html plus the Lenovo only has half the ram of the HP.
    Newer I'm afraid doesn't always equal better.
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    Posts : 403
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit Edition
       07 Nov 2017 #3

    cbiweb said: View Post
    Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo ideapad 320. The specs are in the "System Two" tab of the 'My Computers' info below.

    The problem is everything runs much slower than my older laptop ("System One" below). The worst issue is that Chrome takes 13 seconds to launch a completely blank window, and another 20 full seconds for the the window to render the toolbars, tabs, etc. So, 33 seconds to launch a browser to its usable state.

    Other browsers, my email client, and other apps/programs also take much longer to start up than they did on the old machine; and that machine was laden with much more stuff (web development software, music production software, etc.)

    Did I buy a dud, or is it simply built with less powerful components?

    btw... switching to an SSD is not an option for me at this time.
    Same here with this HP 15, its even slower on restarting after updates. My older Acer Aspire 5515 I installed a System Builders Service Pack DVD of Win7 is faster than this one. graphics went out on it.
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  4. Posts : 43
    Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.165)
    Thread Starter
       07 Nov 2017 #4

    clam1952 said: View Post
    Better have a look here the AMD is better in some but not all areas than the i3 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/501..._i3-7100U.html plus the Lenovo only has half the ram of the HP.
    Newer I'm afraid doesn't always equal better.
    Thanks for the informative link. :)

    I was under the impression that RAM has more to do with how many applications can run at once, not so much speed. That being said, for some reason I thought the Lenovo had 8MB of RAM... disappointed to find it has only 6.
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  5.    07 Nov 2017 #5

    Not forgetting the Intel graphics will also be using some of that ram, if say it's using 2GB that only leaves 4GB for the OS and whatever programs you are running on it, more ram means less swapping to disk and should be a bit faster.

    Just thought it could be 8 with 2 being used by the shared graphics, what's it saying in My PC Properties and task manager under memory?
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  6. Posts : 43
    Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.165)
    Thread Starter
       07 Nov 2017 #6

    clam1952 said: View Post
    ...what's it saying in My PC Properties and task manager under memory?
    With only two windows open (task manager and browser):

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  7.    07 Nov 2017 #7

    That looks to me to be the 6Gb, 125MB hardware reserved is probably mostly the graphics.

    What seems odd is that the specs for your model all state 8GB ram so where did the 2GB go or have you been ripped off?
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  8. Posts : 43
    Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.165)
    Thread Starter
       07 Nov 2017 #8

    clam1952 said: View Post
    What seems odd is that the specs for your model all state 8GB ram so where did the 2GB go or have you been ripped off?
    This is what I'm wondering. Time for a trip back to Staples...
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  9.    10 Nov 2017 #9

    Yes, return that puppy to Staples.

    I find it useful to look at the PassMark rating of the CPU to get a first-pass estimate of speed. (Just google on "passmark". They list every CPU you'll ever find.)

    What CPU is in this new laptop? And the old laptop?

    Also, side note ...
    Cheap is slow. Cheap is unreliable. So don't buy cheap.
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  10. Posts : 895
    Windows 10
       10 Nov 2017 #10

    That's too much memory usage for what you have open. On mine now (Browser, Task Manager, Notepad) about 2.4 GB of 8 GB.

    I would suspect you have not gone thru Windows 10 settings, a lot needs changing otherwise a load of useless stuff runs in the background does downloads that you never use.
    Also stop Live Tiles on the Start screen you don't want, you have to do each individually by right clicking.
    It's around 100 changes need to be made, maybe 20 on one page, so it does not take that long.

    Shared memory for iGPU is a non issue with Windows as it uses very little. The 2GB would only be potentially used for Games essentially.

    I would get rid of 2 Web Browsers, 5 is far too many.

    In the Task Manager Processes Tab sort the memory usage column, then investigate those using a lot of RAM and configure them better.

    I would also check for Malware.

    Check you have not installed any so-called 'cleaner application' that deletes Prefetch data.

    Go to the Power options, minimise the power saving features, go for performance.

    It is not a dud, just that you have apparently not done any configuration of Windows and Applications.
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