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  1.    1 Week Ago #1
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    The Void
    Posts : 49
    Windows 10

    100% Disk Usage On Windows Start-Up


    Hello TenForums,

    I'm currently having a problem with my Windows 10. Whenever it boots up and goes to the User Login (The Wallpaper for that sometimes takes around 5-6 minutes to actually respond) Which means when I press 'Enter' before those minutes are up; I am stuck thinking why is this so freaking slow? Once I've gotten through the User Login, my Windows 10 starts up with the Desktop faster than it did before. Which in my opinion is a whole lot better! What I don't appreciate is the fact that I had to change the Performance Settings from Razer Cortex Power Settings to Balanced / High Performance. I did this as this seems to be the only way to get my Windows 10 running without 100% Disk Usage.

    However, it doesn't fix the problem at hand. Currently, whenever I start-up the PC (Like I said slow loading) I check Task Manager for the first three minutes that have ticked by; only to find that 100% Disk Usage is occurring again. This stops after around 2-3 minutes maximum! I know that this is not really an issue & maybe it's normal, I don't really know. I am bringing this to the TenForums to discuss whether or not it's possible to fix this problem. Is there anyway apart from it being what I think it is:

    What do I think it is?
    This! - I've currently got Windows Defender turned on with no idea on how to turn it off. I assume that the best way to do that is to turn it off in Services (however, I don't know) Alongside Windows Defender- I have One Malware Scanner installed, and that is Malware Bytes. Does anyone know that even without it running- could it cause my PC to work harder than usual? I've heard how Windows Defender suffers from compatibility issues with other Malware Scanning Software.
    Anyone know the Solution?

    Thanks,

    - LukeJR
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  2.    1 Week Ago #2
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 156
    Win 10 rs1 - build 14393.1794

    What version of Windows 10 are you running - 1607, 1703 or 1709 ?

    Is your Malware Bytes the free or paid version ?

    You can only run one active AV and then use the "other" AV as non-active (used for manual scan a.s.o.)
    If you have the free version of Malware Bytes, then Defender and Smart screen are your active AV.

    It is normal for Windows to use some CPU time the first 5 min. after startup, you can try to open the
    Resource Monitor in Task Manager to see which processes that are running.

    The long waiting time for the log in screen to arrive, is not normal. It could be caused by some conflict
    between to processes or programs (maybe which AV should be running).

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    Also, you could for a start try to change the log in screen picture, to check if this change anything.
    (You can always set it back to the preferred one.)
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  3.    1 Week Ago #3
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    The Void
    Posts : 49
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon7 View Post
    What version of Windows 10 are you running - 1607, 1703 or 1709 ?
    Is your Malware Bytes the free or paid version ?
    You can only run one active AV and then use the "other" AV as non-active (used for manual scan a.s.o.)
    If you have the free version of Malware Bytes, then Defender and Smart screen are your active AV.
    It is normal for Windows to use some CPU time the first 5 min. after startup, you can try to open the
    Resource Monitor in Task Manager to see which processes that are running.
    The long waiting time for the log in screen to arrive, is not normal. It could be caused by some conflict
    between to processes or programs (maybe which AV should be running).Also, you could for a start try to change the log in screen picture, to check if this change anything.
    (You can always set it back to the preferred one.)
    Quick Edit: I just shortened the Quote so you don't have to see double. I like to keep things organised if I can help it.
    Anyways, in answer to your question; I believe I have Malware Bytes (Free Edition) I don't plan to purchase the Pro Edition unless someone actually recommends it? I don't know much about the Pro Version to be honest with you.
    As for changing my Picture for the Lock Screen- I've tried this now, and I feel like it has made a little difference. However, could this be because the Image no longer exists on my PC? Or maybe it's in a location that isn't my User account? It's on my other user account. Would this cause a slower load-up on the User Login Screen? Curious . . .

    How would I know what two processes or programs are causing conflict? The only thing I can think of is Windows Defender and possibly Malware Bytes? I do have ZAM but I turned off that Service. Wouldn't that stop Windows Defender from conflicting? :S
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  4.    1 Week Ago #4
    Join Date : Dec 2016
    Posts : 156
    Win 10 rs1 - build 14393.1794

    Hey, the picture for your lock screen should be in you account (Picture folder) copy it from the location you have it
    now and paste it to your Picture folder, then choose it to be used for the lock screen. That should speed things up!

    Check this about your AV situation:

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    What is "ZAM" ?
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  5.    1 Week Ago #5
    Join Date : Oct 2016
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts : 438
    Win10 Home x64 - 1709

    I'm currently having a problem with my Windows 10. Whenever it boots up and goes to the User Login (The Wallpaper for that sometimes takes around 5-6 minutes to actually respond)
    Hey LukeJR,
    Here are a couple things to try ... if you have't already.

    1. Try turning off Fast Startup
    Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials

    2. If you system specs are correct you have an AMD/ATI Video Card, so try disabling EnableULPS
    Open Regedit and Search for EnableULPS and set it's value from 1 to 0 ... (Do NOT change EnableULPS_NA)
    Close Regedit and Reboot
    Note: With EnableULPS set to 1 .... the user usually sees a black screen for a min or so, before the lock/login screen, Even if you're not seeing a black screen, it won't hurt anything to disable it.

    3. Set SuperFetch to manual in Windows Services and reboot .... just to see if that wait time improves.
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  6.    1 Week Ago #6
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    The Void
    Posts : 49
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon7 View Post
    Hey, the picture for your lock screen should be in you account (Picture folder) copy it from the location you have it
    now and paste it to your Picture folder, then choose it to be used for the lock screen. That should speed things up!

    Check this about your AV situation:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    What is "ZAM" ?
    Completed what you told me (First one) Moved the Picture from where it was originally located: "Downloads" - Not sure if this would make it run slower on Start-up User Login. But I'm willing to give it a try now. Also checked and it says Windows Defender is Active but Malware Bytes is (OFF) Maybe that means it can't be my AV causing the problem? As for "ZAM" that too is turned off & it stands for Zemana AntiMalware - Ever heard of it? Windows 10 Staff Member recommended it to me. When I was going through a Support session.
    So, could it be that the Picture being located in Downloads was causing the problem? Also does having too many items in your Downloads folder slow down to your PC too? And can it cause Disk Usage to reach 100% for longer? :S
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  7.    1 Week Ago #7
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,952
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hi, you might try this which has significantly reduced disk usage after logon:
    Open Task Scheduler. Under Microsoft->Windows->Customer Experience Improvement Program. Right click->disable the 2 tasks.

    You don't need them and been known to cause problems. MS collect data and send it in the background.
    @topgundcp
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  8.    1 Week Ago #8
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    The Void
    Posts : 49
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Hi, you might try this which has significantly reduced disk usage after logon:
    Open Task Scheduler. Under Microsoft->Windows->Customer Experience Improvement Program. Right click->disable the 2 tasks.

    You don't need them and been known to cause problems. MS collect data and send it in the background.
    @topgundcp
    Thanks, I've just tried this & I feel like this might work. I'll update you on the results.
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  9.    1 Week Ago #9
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    The Void
    Posts : 49
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Quick Update: Still got the same problem. Does anyone know what this could be? :S
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  10.    1 Week Ago #10
    Join Date : Nov 2016
    Posts : 420
    Windows 10

    Hi,
    We don't have your PC in front of us or what applications you have installed or how you have configured your PC and Applications.

    You don't seem to know what you have installed yourself, so how can you expect others to know.
    That you really have to work thru this yourself, it maybe several things, no quick fix.

    I would start with using the Task Manager and looking at the Processes Tab and sorting the Disk usage column with most at the top. Then try to identify the particular application, feature or whatever it is.
    Then go to that application and configure it. Don't just accept defaults as they might introduce unwanted junk like notification icons, auto-updaters, news feeds and the like.
    Windows Settings - go thru the whole lot there is around 100 items you may want to switch off, some may reappear after a major version upgrade so you do it all again.

    You should be doing this on every install to keep lean and mean continuously rather than leaving it all to accumulate.
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