Windows 10: Windows Power Manager or Manufacturer Power Manager ?

  1.    21 Oct 2017 #1

    Windows Power Manager or Manufacturer Power Manager ?


    I got to realize windows implemented its own battery power manager , it is set on "Best Performance" while I already have a manufacturer battery power manager that is installed but two years old (Early 2016) that reports being up to date set on "Balance Mode" , now i am clueless which one is in effect right now and if i should disable one
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  2.    21 Oct 2017 #2

    I'd stick with the Windows Power Manager rather than Manufacturer's since I believe you have better control of your power management with Windows. However, if your manufacturer has a fan control system, keep using that IMO
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       21 Oct 2017 #3

    Currently on my Laptop the manufacturers Eco Power settings application is not installed.
    It adds in a couple of Power plans and alters the long list slightly in the Windows advanced power options. System cooling policy moves to different section in there though it seems to be the same.

    The fan seems to be controlled the same whether the manufacturers Eco power app is installed or not. I never used any of the manufacturers additions which just seemed to complicate things.
    It obviously has links and is not entirely separate from Windows Power options.

    Your manufacturers extra power settings/Battery manager/Eco/Green, plans, etc maybe different. You'll have to experiment, carefully.
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  4.    21 Oct 2017 #4

    I use High Performance on my Desktop but that is because I use my PC for my recording studio. For "regular" PC operations Balanced is OK (and what my Laptop is set to).
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       21 Oct 2017 #5

    Similar to what fireberd described, I use the balanced, with min/max at 5%-100%. It will throttle up quickly when needed. And, as mentioned by theveterans , if a fan control is available, keep that. Windows is capable of managing the power plans quite well. Any discrete GPUs, I would use the card manufacturers options, if available.
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  6.    21 Oct 2017 #6

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Similar to what fireberd described, I use the balanced, with min/max at 5%-100%. It will throttle up quickly when needed. And, as mentioned by theveterans , if a fan control is available, keep that. Windows is capable of managing the power plans quite well. Any discrete GPUs, I would use the card manufacturers options, if available.

    Windows is capable of managing the power plans quite well
    On newer systems it does.
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       21 Oct 2017 #7

    Josey Wales said: View Post
    On newer systems it does.
    Well, maybe the OP will come back and tell us something about his machine, like make, model, age, mem, disk.....the basics. We know it's at least 2 years old by his post.

    All we know now is:
    Computer Type: Laptop
    OS: Windows 10
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  8.    21 Oct 2017 #8

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Well, maybe the OP will come back and tell us something about his machine, like make, model, age, mem, disk.....the basics. We know it's at least 2 years old by his post.

    All we know now is:
    Computer Type: Laptop
    OS: Windows 10
    The OP has been around here for almost 2 years. Don't hold your breath TC.
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  9.    23 Oct 2017 #9

    First I favor the manufacturer's power manager because according to their claim it preserves battery life longer by keeping it around 60% charge when kept in charger constantly because being fully charged for prolonged times without use ruins it . I found their claim valid since the battery still operates as normal as I bought it 2 years ago unlike other laptops I had that deteriorated within a year of use .


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    But like you see this is what confuses me , according to windows power manager I am running at best performance , however according to my manufacturer's power manager I have it at medium performance , and according to power options I am on balanced power plan .

    So technically this makes the manufacturer's power manager more authentic at its reporting than windows power manager . Mind you I don't get this , shouldn't moving power slider control change power plan accordingly ?
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  10.    24 Oct 2017 #10

    I have been researching the net about that new performance slider and how its unattached to power plans , I think it is fairly new , the whole web is posting older power manager photos which didn't have that slider :
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    There are several mentions however that relates this slider to be a work in progress .
    The forum here is aware of it let me quote
    Please note – the slider does not actually set new power or performance configurations. It’s just the UI right now. Microsoft will be working with OEMs to determine the best settings for their customers, so that they can ship those on new Windows 10 PCs. In this Insider build, Microsoft is just looking to get your feedback on this UI!
    There is also mentions here that the slider is intended for apps weather they are allowed to run in background while in power saving mode .
    Other surprisingly vague quotes here by Microsoft that they have been sweating themselves testing and testing and finally could come to 11% battery saving for users of such slider on 6th generation of Intel CPUs but promise to optimize it for other cores later this year
    Note: Power Throttling is currently available only for processors with Intel’s Speed Shift technology, available in Intel’s 6th-gen (and beyond) Core processors – we’re working on expanding support to other processors as well over the next few months.
    So basically I am getting the idea that :
    1 - Power Plans and Power Mode are 2 different things .
    2 - And that Power Mode is just a dummy slider so people can feel happy but it might work for certain ambiguous hardware , or am I mistaken here ?
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