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  1.    15 Jul 2017 #1
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    Win 10 Pro - 1703

    WinUpdate KB4022405 Messes Up Desktop, Slows Performance


    Hi folks,

    All was fine until this bear was installed: 2017-06 Update for Windows 10 Version 1703.

    Shortcut Arrows appeared on left monitor, not on right. Fixed with WinAero.
    Icons reduced in size on right monitor, not on left. Fixed with WinAero.
    Icon fonts changed from Arial to unnamed font on both monitors. Fixed with WinAero.

    Can't seem to fix these irksome problems:

    1--Icon locations loused up on both monitors. When I move an Icon to my desired position, sometimes it stays there. Other times it bounces to a totally new location. Moving more than one Icon simultaneously sometimes gets one of them right, the others not, but not always.

    2--Programs I frequently use now take much longer to load. So does accessing common WWW sites. They all work, but at snail's pace.

    Not being tech savvy, I'm flustered. Is there something like WinAero that can resolve these vexations?
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  2.    15 Jul 2017 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,862
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64
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  3.    15 Jul 2017 #3
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 100
    Win 10 Pro - 1703
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    Yes, of course, sensible actions...but they don't help.

    My weekly regimen includes Malware Bytes, Avast Cleanup, PCTools Clean, Piriform CCleaner, Super AntiSpyware. I also have Diskeeper 16 automatically defragging. Additionally, I manually remove many log, bkp, and other outdated or duplicated files.

    But...I'm still left with the same problems. And, what really irks me, is that I do not have these woes on my backup computer which has the same update. Naturally, the problems are on my main machine!
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  4.    15 Jul 2017 #4
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,862
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    Maybe you are cleaning too much and too often. PCTools does not support 10 and Avast Cleanup might cause issues as well, it disables TrkWks service, which is essential for properly working NTFS file system.

    SuperAntiSpyware is not, what it used to be, you can replace it with Emsisoft Portable or Zemana.

    Check out
    WiseCare365 and DriverEasy. WC.bat for cleaning might also interest you.
    WinUpdate KB4022405 Messes Up Desktop, Slows Performance Attached Files
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  5.    15 Jul 2017 #5
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    Win 10 Pro - 1703
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    Maybe you are cleaning too much and too often. PCTools does not support 10 and Avast Cleanup might cause issues as well, it disables TrkWks service, which is essential for properly working NTFS file system.

    SuperAntiSpyware is not, what it used to be, you can replace it with Emsisoft Portable or Zemana.

    Check out
    WiseCare365 and DriverEasy. WC.bat for cleaning might also interest you.
    Thank you for the clean-up suggestions. FYI, TenForums came back with this error message on WC.bat:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	WCbat - TenForums.jpg 
Views:	55 
Size:	15.2 KB 
ID:	144091

    So, I guess I won't touch that one. WiseCare365, according to CNET, is mainly for mobile devices but this is a desktop, and DriverEasy is an update service for drivers. Neither of them seem to address the issues I have. Correct me, please, if I'm wrong. A search for Emsisoft Portable did not yield any results via CNET. Zemana appears to be an anti-key-logger which is a good idea for some folks, but does not address my issues.
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  6.    16 Jul 2017 #6
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,862
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    WiseCare is the same type of software like Avast Cleanup, maybe a little safer.

    http://www.wisecleaner.com/wise-care-365.html

    I suggested drivereasy, because you might have outdated drivers, since you have upgraded.
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  7.    16 Jul 2017 #7
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    Win 10 Pro - 1703
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    WiseCare is the same type of software like Avast Cleanup, maybe a little safer.

    http://www.wisecleaner.com/wise-care-365.html

    I suggested drivereasy, because you might have outdated drivers, since you have upgraded.
    THANK YOU.

    Ok on Wise Clean. Tried it. Simple enough, even for me.
    On DriverEasy, maybe an idea for the future. Since horrid experiences updating drivers with nVidia and Epson, I now only update drivers if they don't work.

    But, even though I applaud your patience with me, I have to say that neither of these two suggestions -- while good for periodic cleaning -- address the two issues that I noted with my original post in this thread.

    1 -- Icons do not remain where I move them. Especially when restarting.

    2 -- Programs that load very fast on my backup computer with the same Win updates load very slow on my main computer with latest update.
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  8.    29 Jul 2017 #8
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    Win 10 Pro - 1703
    Thread Starter

    For others who may face similar problems...

    On #1, icons jumping to different locations: I have found the issue. WinUpdate KB4022405 changed horiz & vert distances between icons from I had previously, causing icons and their titles to occupy more desktop space. I changed most titles to a single line, especially those closest to the task bar, and via WinAero reset distances between icons. Bingo...windows behaved again.

    But on #2, I do NOT have a resolution. The problem still is: my main computer loads ALL programs slower than my backup computer, even after being sure that Power is set to High, making sure that the start-up folder is bare bones, and eliminating auto-checking for updates. I have done: CC, MalwareBytes, SuperAnti Spyware, Avast, and Wise Clean. The problem still remains. Libre Office Calc, for instance, loads slower on the Main computer than on the Backup. Same newly re-installed version. DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? I'd be delighted to learn. Thank you.
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  9.    03 Aug 2017 #9
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 100
    Win 10 Pro - 1703
    Thread Starter

    Reposting...Any recommendations on this issue?

    The problem still is: my main computer loads ALL programs slower than my backup computer, even after being sure that Power is set to High, making sure that the start-up folder is bare bones, and eliminating auto-checking for updates. I have done: CC, MalwareBytes, SuperAnti Spyware, Avast, and Wise Clean. The problem still remains. Libre Office Calc, for instance, loads slower on the Main computer than on the Backup. Same newly re-installed version. DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? I'd be delighted to learn. Thank you.
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  10.    05 Aug 2017 #10
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Florida Rene View Post
    Reposting...Any recommendations on this issue?

    The problem still is: my main computer loads ALL programs slower than my backup computer, even after being sure that Power is set to High, making sure that the start-up folder is bare bones, and eliminating auto-checking for updates. I have done: CC, MalwareBytes, SuperAnti Spyware, Avast, and Wise Clean. The problem still remains. Libre Office Calc, for instance, loads slower on the Main computer than on the Backup. Same newly re-installed version. DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? I'd be delighted to learn. Thank you.
    Reinstall windows, download ISO from Microsoft using their Media Creation Tool,

    I've had this and no software can fix it only a complete reinstall
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