1.    02 Jul 2017 #1
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    Windows 10 Pro 1511

    System update


    Hello,
    Yesterday made another try to update the system. Some updates were found and started to download. After about
    3 hours the download finished and installation started. One was installed (KB4021702), the other asked for a restart so I left it for the next day (today). Before shuting down the computer I checked what was downloaded and found two large folders, one is "$GetCurrent" = 210 MB, the other is "Windows 10 Upgrade" = 3.16 GB.
    After a restart another update installed (KB4021704). System build was changed from 10586.318 to 10586.962.
    What I am asking: Can I delete those two big files, as I understand there was no upgrade, it is still 1511, and they use some disk space.
    Answers will be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Motim
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  2.    03 Jul 2017 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2016
    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    Hi Motim.

    First of all I would not be deleting any system system files. If you want to reclaim space use the Window's installed tools "Disk Cleanup" and inside that routine select cleanup Systen files.

    Your system is very old. 1511 was superseded by 1607 which has recently been updated by 1703.

    Is there a specific reason you are holding back?


    Ken
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  3.    03 Jul 2017 #3
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    Windows 10 Pro 1511
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    System update


    Quote Originally Posted by Caledon Ken View Post
    Hi Motim.
    Your system is very old. 1511 was superseded by 1607 which has recently been updated by 1703.
    Is there a specific reason you are holding back?
    Ken
    Hello,
    Thanks for the answer.
    Well, this is a sad story - After the two updates I wrote about, on the next day a notice popedup saying there is a new update ready and have to restart and countdown started. Finished what I was doing and restarted, on the blue screen it said that windows is installing update, not to shut down computer, and it is going to last a while.
    After several restarts the update was at 71% another restart, screen was black, only the roulete was turning.
    Waited about half an hour nothing changed, mouse and keyboard inoperative, even the HD light not flashing. Waited a little more and nothing happened, so I decided to use my Macrium backup to restore the system.
    When restore finished I had my system back, but the two updates gone and build went back as before the update,
    but at least its working.
    I do not know if the update was an upgrade (those two large files I wrote about), any way it did not work.
    On the system installed office and some other programs I use, do not have the office installation cd, neither the system cd.
    Before starting updates I ran all troubleshooters and everything was fine.
    You say my system is old, so am I.
    Well, this is the story.
    Thanks again
    Motim
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  4.    03 Jul 2017 #4
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    Sorry if this is a copy of my previous answer, but after writing and clicking the button it said I am not loged-in, so loged-in again.

    Hello,
    Thanks for the answer.
    Well, this is a sad story - After the two updates I wrote about, on the next day a notice popedup saying there is a new update ready and have to restart and countdown started. Finished what I was doing and restarted, on the blue screen it said that windows is installing update, not to shut down computer, and it is going to last a while.
    After several restarts the update was at 71% another restart, screen was black, only the roulete was turning.
    Waited about half an hour nothing changed, mouse and keyboard inoperative, even the HD light not flashing. Waited a little more and nothing happened, so I decided to use my Macrium backup to restore the system.
    When restore finished I had my system back, but the two updates gone and build went back as before the update,
    but at least its working.
    I do not know if the update was an upgrade (those two large files I wrote about), any way it did not work.
    On the system installed office and some other programs I use, do not have the office installation cd, neither the system cd.
    Before starting updates I ran all troubleshooters and everything was fine.
    You say my system is old, so am I.
    Well, this is the story.
    Thanks again
    Motim
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  5.    03 Jul 2017 #5
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    S/E England
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Motim View Post
    I do not know if the update was an upgrade (those two large files I wrote about), any way it did not work
    Yes, almost certainly it was an upgrade to a newer version (or a 'Features Update' as Microsoft calls them). The 3.16GB download is the right size for that. As you currently have 1511 it could have been either of the two newer versions. Windows update would have shown it as 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1607' or 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1703'. Probably it was 1607 which was the next version after your 1511, I don't think windows update would skip versions.

    The $GetCurrent folder would have contained, amongst other things, the log of the failed install which may have had the clues needed to say why the upgrade failed, and what could be done to make it work.

    Quote Originally Posted by How-To Geek
    The $GetCurrent directory is created during the upgrade process. It contains log files about that last Windows upgrade process...
    https://www.howtogeek.com/308301/wha...u-delete-them/
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  6.    03 Jul 2017 #6
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    System update


    Quote Originally Posted by Bree View Post
    Yes, almost certainly it was an upgrade to a newer version (or a 'Features Update' as Microsoft calls them). The 3.16GB download is the right size for that. As you currently have 1511 it could have been either of the two newer versions. Windows update would have shown it as 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1607' or 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1703'. Probably it was 1607 which was the next version after your 1511, I don't think windows update would skip versions.
    https://www.howtogeek.com/308301/wha...u-delete-them/
    Hello,
    Thanks for the answer.
    Here is my question: Suppose I make another try to update, suppose it works, what happens to office and all other installed programs ?. As you know from my previous posts, I have not the office instl. disk, most of other programs
    I have the installation files.
    Thanks for answering
    Motim
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  7.    03 Jul 2017 #7
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    An upgrade to a newer version of Windows 10 will retain your documents and the previously installed programs. If any programs are known to be incompatible you will be told so during the upgrade and given a choice of uninstalling and continuing with the upgrade, or cancelling it and returning to your current system. Such cases are rare, most often found with software for which you can download an updated version that is compatible. The last time I had that issue it was with and old version of CCleaner, for example.

    The should be no such issues with Office. I have versions of Office on my systems that were installed by the OEM (so like you, I don't have the install disks either). The oldest is Office 2007 which was on a system that came with Windows 7. It's still installed and runs perfectly having upgraded first to 1511, then upgraded that to 1607 and now to 1703.

    After an upgrade, if you have any issues you have a window of 10 days in which you can go back to your previous version, if you take that option it will undo all the changes the upgrade made, including restoring all previously installed software as it was before you started the upgrade.
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  8.    03 Jul 2017 #8
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    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    If I said your system was old my apologizes. Your software is old. 1511 is from November 2015. As Bree has pointed out there have been two major updates since.

    If you are prepared to do the update here is our tutorial.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade

    I would recommend making an Image with a tool like Macrium Reflect just in case. I always recommend people back up their data as well. The upgrade should not impact it but better prepared than sorry. We have a tutorial for Macrium as well.

    Ken
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  9.    03 Jul 2017 #9
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    Hi,You have two major version updates which amount to Windows completely re-installing, each of those will take maybe 3 hours each and some big cumulative updates between those which will take a number of hours.

    The major version updates will be tidied up after 10 days. I just leave it until it's done, rather than using the Cleanup tool earlier.
    Re-starts during that time maybe of the order of 20.

    You are basically interrupting the updating, being impatient and using an image from a while ago thus it will now take even longer.
    You have actually doubled the times mentioned by using an old image.

    Those % indicators stay on one reading for a very long time and people think it's failed or stopped.

    Have patience, a lot of it....

    My MS Office 2010 installation, OpenOffice and documents have survived for 3 years through Windows 8.1 and 3 versions of Windows 10 to 1703 CU, no worries.

    Assuming this is the PC in your specs. It may help to uninstall AVG Antivirus and use the built in Defender until all those major updates are done, then re-install AVG.
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  10.    03 Jul 2017 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmut View Post
    Hi,You have two major version updates which amount to Windows completely re-installing, each of those will take maybe 3 hours each
    Actually, you can go straight from 1511 to the latest 1703, so just the one upgrade needed plus one cumulative update when it's done. In fact, if you follow the tutorial in the link @Caledon Ken gave you will first download the Media Creation Tool. The MCT makes 1703 install media, you can't use it to make 1607 media even if you wanted to. The method recommended by most here is 'Step 4' from that tutorial, use an ISO. With your spec CPU it should take no more than an hour to install, plus the time to download the ISO (about 3-4GB).

    Assuming this is the PC in your specs. It may help to uninstall AVG Antivirus and use the built in Defender until all those major updates are done, then re-install AVG.
    I think @Helmut has hit the nail on the head here. 3rd-party AVs have been known to cause problems with upgrades in the past.
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