Cleanup issue, doesn't appear in list

Barabba · 05 May 2017

Hi all! I would say I'm a windows expert, and sadly I'm facing several bugs of Win10 compared to Win7.. they appear randomly on different hardware, I still use Win7 till Ms will solve all these issues.

Win10 64 installed ad updated, system is fresh/just installed, my windows folder is up to 17GB, when I statr cleanup it scans, then I press the "clean system files" button, it scans again and I can see it scans also for unecessary windows update files, it takes some minutes while hard drive is also working so it finds many of them, but when it display again the options I can't see there the windows update entry.. what can be wrong here?
How can I force remove those files? there is any command line with DISM?

Please help, thank you

Bree · 05 May 2017

Barabba said:

...I press the "clean system files" button... but when it display again the options I can't see there the windows update entry..

Welcome to TenForums @Barabba

It should be there, but won't be ticked by default. It should be listed as 'Update package backup files'. If you still can't see it, you can get a more comprehensive list of files that can be cleaned by using extended disk clean-up, Option Two in this tutorial.

Open and Use Disk Cleanup in Windows 10

WOT · 05 May 2017

Hi @barraba,

Your Windows folder is not really that huge. In comparison, my C drive is at 18.8GBs and my Windows folder is at 15.4 GBs.

So, in addition to the helpful information @Bree has provided, you might want to see if your "system restore points" are taking up a nice chunk of space:

Cleanup issue, doesn't appear in list-screenshot-6-.png

Note that I have mine turned off because I use Macrium Reflect to perform routine/periodic disk imaging so there is no need for me to leave it turned on.

Good luck,

WOT

Barabba · 05 May 2017

thank you mates for kind and prompt answer,
in my opinion this entry should appear, like others even if they report a "0 byte" as to be cleaned. If there isn't it is a bug, like some others huge bugs I've found on Win10.

I' running the extended cleanup, I did but without starting cmd as admin (I turned off UAC, and I'm the admin of PC, so I supposed I didn't need it). Now it looks recompressing cabs file and cleaning probably at next reboot. I'll tell you checking the free space later.
Yes I already empty and reduced the space for system restore, thank you for posting.

This copy of Windows had installed different updates during setup, and run windows update 3-4 times later.. I would suppose there are at least 4GB of about hundred thousands useless files around.. unless Win10 not cleaning itself as scheduled task (by night for example), and I strongly dubt about it because slow computers are good reason for buying a new one, it looks impossible there is anything to clean..

Barabba · 05 May 2017

the size still the same.. so nothing was done.
Maybe there are issues into Winsxs that prevent cleanmgr to consider clean it? how may I fix them?
Thanks

Bree · 05 May 2017

Barabba said:

in my opinion this entry should appear, like others even if they report a "0 byte" as to be cleaned. If there isn't it is a bug, like some others huge bugs I've found on Win10.

It's not a bug, it's by design and always has been. If one of the 'occasional' items like 'update backups' or 'previous widows installations' has 0 bytes then it won't be listed. It has worked this way since Windows XP (and Windows 95).

Bree · 05 May 2017

Barabba said:

Maybe there are issues into Winsxs that prevent cleanmgr to consider clean it? how may I fix them?

It's more likely that there's nothing to be cleaned, particularly on a fresh install. You can use DISM to analyse the component store and, if DISM recommends it, clean it up.

Analyze Component Store (WinSxS folder) in Windows 10

WOT · 05 May 2017

If you really want to take your space recovery initiative a step further, I would recommend you download Wise Disk Cleaner (portable), run it, and see how much space you could recover using the 'slimming system" options selectively. Also, if you want to see what cleaning options you might have with regard to the SXS folder, I have attached a pdf document with the details. Note: I did not write this document and I don't remember where I got it from but I have used the options contained within successfully (without instance) many times. Same goes for Wise Disk Cleaner.

I hesitated to make these recommendations but they have worked for my purposes.

Good luck,

WOT

indianacarnie · 05 May 2017

Well, for being an "expert" on Windows, why did you not elevate your cmd? It seems to me the main reason you are here is to slam Win10, by any way you can think of. I've noticed very few "bugs" myself and no "huge" ones. I'm far from being an expert but have been trashing and fixing various windows installations since Win95 and am totally happy with 10. If you want to stay on 7 till ..... whenever ..... that's your right but don't manufacture "problems" when they aren't there.

Welcome to the forums btw.

Barabba · 06 May 2017

thank you a lot for solutions, I'll check them as soon as possible. And thanks to welcome me and help, I really really appreciate this forum!

Well, I'm not here for slam but to solve issues, anyway I can't hide my disappointment about some relevant issue I noticed in different computers where I tested Win10 (most recent updates merged on the installation ISO) or where they came from shop with.. and I can't understand how Ms let Win7 "win the battle" (in terms of usability/less bugs), after months they didn't fix them and pretend Win10 be installed in all PC of the world. If they are far from it there should be a reason.. lot of work should be done yet, anyway I'm sure it will become good as Win7 is now in some years :)