Windows 10: Latest on SSD settings on Win-10

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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #21

    DavidY said: View Post
    First thing to note is that this one of those little 32GB devices, and I don't think it's a "true" SSD.
    Also, I may have run Optimise myself manually at times. But also I have a main laptop which I do most of my stuff on, so this doesn't get switched on every day so can go for a few weeks without being switched on. So it's difficult to conclude much from the dates.
    Because of the small disk space, it's still on Windows 10 1511 - I'll need to do some work to upgrade it to 1607, but that does mean it's been running a while in this configuration.
    That said, here's the powershell results....
    Thanks for the results.

    They do show that your C drive was being defragged nearly every month and that the Recovery drive has been defragged more often. This suggests to me that you might not have a spinner drive at all in this unit. Is that correct?

    wonder what the effect is of Recovery Partition gettting defragged this frequently!!

    and c drive retrims is most likely due to manually running optimizer. I'm seeing the same on my box. New unit but running optimize manually did trim, I'm sure windows nearly every month would defrag (if you've enabled Optimize on that partition) which is BAD.
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  2. slicendice's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #22

    DavidY said: View Post
    That's not what the Microsoft WIndows Storage team say (at least not reputedly in 2014).
    From here:
    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman

    The point being (I think) that the tables in the file system are affected by fragmentation, even if the actual files aren't.
    That is very OLD information, and because defragmenting an SSD is totally useless and kills the SSD, Microsoft has fixed this issue.

    The tables in the filesystem are just data address references and does not affect SSD performance in a way that would be noticeable in any way. Sure the list could be indexed and sorted for some minor speedup...
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #23

    Well, thanks for the correction, looks like I was wrong. That being said, I still feel that Windows is set up to run an SSD to it's 99% full potential and that any user tweaking of it isn't going to result in any noticeable increase in performance. So I will continue with my practice of installing Windows and letting Windows handle it.
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  4. slicendice's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #24

    Here's how the stuff is working by default:

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    And here are the default enabled drives/partitions for optimization:
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    I can not even manually defrag/optimize the partitions that are on SSDs! Clicking the Optimize button does nothing. I Run Insider Preview Build 15025 and official Windows Version 1607 Build 14393.693. Both behave the same.
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #25

    slicendice said: View Post
    That is very OLD information, and because defragmenting an SSD is totally useless and kills the SSD, Microsoft has fixed this issue.

    The tables in the filesystem are just data address references and does not affect SSD performance in a way that would be noticeable in any way. Sure the list could be indexed and sorted for some minor speedup...
    The whole point of this exercise is to find out if MS has fixed this issue and based on results so far, it does not look like it.

    That is why I requested to run the Powershell script under the conditions that I outlined.
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  6. slicendice's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #26

    It is fixed!

    If anyone is running some old build then it's that users own fault. Update to latest official (Anniversary Update) and you are safe.
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  7.    2 Weeks Ago #27

    slicendice said: View Post
    It is fixed!
    So when you run the script it does not show any Defragging of your SSDs?

    If that is the case then that would indeed be wonderful.
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       2 Weeks Ago #28

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    As you can see from my previous screenshots, Windows has not even attempted to analyze SSD drives.
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  9.    2 Weeks Ago #29

    slicendice said: View Post
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    As you can see from my previous screenshots, Windows has not even attempted to analyze SSD drives.
    That's great. Thanks.

    But raises another question. Why aren't SSDs at all optimized with TRIM either in your unit? I thought Trim is the way to optimize SSDs and if you manually optimize the SSD, that is how windows does it.

    Thanks again.
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  10. slicendice's Avatar
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       2 Weeks Ago #30

    Hmm, on Anniversary edition I can TRIM the drive, but that is all.
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