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  1. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 18
    Linux
       09 Jun 2015 #1

    Let's run Win10 on really really old hardware


    So from my last thread it seems that there isn't a main thread for this so here's one.

    If you've got some old hardware that will run Win10 and the will to do it, post about it here. Post screenshots to proove you've got it working. And no, Core 2 CPUs don't count as old, those are still usable

    Well I'll start. Here's Win10 build 10130 running on a 10 year old Dell XPS M170 laptop (circa 2005). Fastest CPU option, max ram at 2GB.

    http://i.imgur.com/xMGGJcY.png

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  2. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,917
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jun 2015 #2

    Well, Windows 10 request the eXecute Dispable bit, or NX bit and the first NX bit capable CPU's were AMD Opteron's that shipped in mid-2003. So any hardware older than this won't run Windows 10 for sure.

    The first Pentium's to support this were Pentium 4's in late 2004. These were the so-called "J" processors because they had J's after their model number.
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  3. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 18
    Linux
       09 Jun 2015 #3

    Mystere said: View Post
    Well, Windows 10 request the eXecute Dispable bit, or NX bit and the first NX bit capable CPU's were AMD Opteron's that shipped in mid-2003. So any hardware older than this won't run Windows 10 for sure.

    The first Pentium's to support this were Pentium 4's in late 2004. These were the so-called "J" processors because they had J's after their model number.
    Note quite. Win10 will use hardware execute disable but will fallback to software if the CPU doesn't have it. Its not a hard requirement according to this:

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...sked-questions

    If my DEP settings indicate that my computer’s processor does not support hardware-based DEP, am I still protected?

    Yes. DEP is a software-based feature of Windows. Some computer processors also provide hardware-based DEP under various names. These processors use hardware technology to prevent programs from running code in protected memory locations. If your processor does not support hardware-based DEP, Windows will use software-based DEP to help protect your computer.
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  4. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,917
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jun 2015 #4

    That was in Windows Vista. In windows 8 (maybe 8.1, can't remember) NX was made a requirement. I believe the reason was security related. If you emulated the bit, then there was some attack vector that was possible, so they dropped the emulation support.
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  5. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 18
    Linux
       09 Jun 2015 #5

    Mystere said: View Post
    That was in Windows Vista. In windows 8 (maybe 8.1, can't remember) NX was made a requirement.
    Oh haha, missed the 'Vista' in the corner.

    So the first Opteron with NX bit was in 2005.

    Opteron (90 nm SOI, DDR)[edit]
    Single-core Venus (1yy), Troy (2yy), Athens (8yy)

    My Pentium M was also 2005 so I'm not far off from an age perspective. Maybe there's something older we're missing?
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  6. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,917
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jun 2015 #6

    Actually, the Pentium M 780 was released in April of 2006, and didn't start shipping in equipment until mid-year.
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  7. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 18
    Linux
       09 Jun 2015 #7

    Mystere said: View Post
    Actually, the Pentium M 780 was released in April of 2006, and didn't start shipping in equipment until mid-year.
    Wikipedia says released "July 25, 2005". Intel ARK doesn't have release date info.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,917
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jun 2015 #8

    Ahh.. I was misreading a different article, the processor had alrady been released, I thought the article was talking about the release. I stand corrected.
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  9. Joined : May 2015
    Oakville
    Posts : 21
    XP/7/8.1/10 PRO 10586
       09 Jun 2015 #9

    So by the sounds of the hardware, Windows 10 won't run on anything less than Socket 478 for Intel and ... Socket 939 for AMD?
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  10. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,917
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jun 2015 #10

    heyyahblah said: View Post
    So by the sounds of the hardware, Windows 10 won't run on anything less than Socket 478 for Intel and ... Socket 939 for AMD?
    While true, it's not quite that simple. Not all Socket 478's work, since 478 was introduced with the Northwood cores in 2002. NX capable cores came in late 2004, and Socket 775 came out in 2006 (which by then all these had NX)
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