Let's run Win10 on really really old hardware

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  1. Posts : 68
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.4123
       #781

    I have both the following laptops with Win 10 on them both...

    1. HP DV6205us (I added RAM to make it 2GB) and swapped out the old HDD for a 1TB SSD

    2. MSI Wind Notebook U-100 (Added RAM to make it 2GB and upgraded the wireless card to faster one) also swapped the HDD to a 1TB SSD
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  2. Posts : 1,939
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #782

    udidwht said:
    I have both the following laptops with Win 10 on them both...

    1. HP DV6205us (I added RAM to make it 2GB) and swapped out the old HDD for a 1TB SSD

    2. MSI Wind Notebook U-100 (Added RAM to make it 2GB and upgraded the wireless card to faster one) also swapped the HDD to a 1TB SSD
    which specific Win10 version, udidwht? 1909, 2004 or 20H2. type winver.exe in the Run dialog box to show the Win10 edition and version.

    rseiler said:
    I have to believe there's a trick to advance Clover Trail, since after all they said I shouldn't be able to get to even 1809, but I did and it works fine. But whatever loophole I squeezed through back then has been closed, so a new one is needed.
    the bigger issue or problem for Clover Trail hardware is the GFX driver in which Intel never made a specific win10 version for that.

    I found out the hard way that the Win10 v2004 & 20H2 versions had serious issues/problems with old nVidia graphics hardware & their drivers (esp. old nVidia Geforce. supposed to be "resolved" with at least KB4568831 as MS claims but the start menu doesn't work properly on Win10 v2004 (missing start menu text) & the taskbar is almost dis-colored or almost "ghost-like" with the onboard nVidia Geforce 6150se nforce 430 hardware & using 309.08 nvidia graphics driver on my old HP pavilion desktop PC [aww crap]. I may have to install a newer graphics card & use newer video drivers that the 2004/20H2 versions can really handle
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  3. Posts : 68
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.4123
       #783

    erpster4 said:
    which specific Win10 version, udidwht? 1909, 2004 or 20H2. type winver.exe in the Run dialog box to show the Win10 edition and version.



    the bigger issue or problem for Clover Trail hardware is the GFX driver in which Intel never made a specific win10 version for that.

    I found out the hard way that the Win10 v2004 & 20H2 versions had serious issues/problems with old nVidia graphics hardware & their drivers (esp. old nVidia Geforce. supposed to be "resolved" with at least KB4568831 as MS claims but the start menu doesn't work properly on Win10 v2004 (missing start menu text) & the taskbar is almost dis-colored or almost "ghost-like" with the onboard nVidia Geforce 6150se nforce 430 hardware & using 309.08 nvidia graphics driver on my old HP pavilion desktop PC [aww crap]. I may have to install a newer graphics card & use newer video drivers that the 2004/20H2 versions can really handle
    Both are running Windows 10 Pro 2004 19041.572 (both updating again now...)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Update:

    Both now...Windows 10 Pro 20H2 19042.630
    Last edited by udidwht; 13 Nov 2020 at 18:56.
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  4. Posts : 3,514
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
       #784

    In my main PC (see my specs) I had Windows 10 v1909 and wasn't allowed to upgrade to v2004 because of outdated nVidia drivers. Some where latest version, some where older version. Just installing latest version wouldn't work, all components should be at the latest version. The solution was to use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) to completely remove any trace of nVidia drivers and then install the latest version. This worked and now I'm running v2004. Not sure if the latest nVidia driver for your hardware is eligible for v2004, but you have nothing to lose, try it. Use DDU first to remove any old drivers and then install the latest driver from Artificial Intelligence Computing Leadership from NVIDIA
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  5. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
       #785

    Hi all. Further to my Compaq Presario desktop pc from 2005 postings. I have an evga gt 730 1gb gpu in it but was thinking would it perform better in gaming if I added an amd r7 250 1gb? I believe amd drivers are kept more up to date with older cards. than the nvidia equivalent. Would be a decent experiment. I will try it and report back.
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  6. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #786

    Tzap said:
    Hi all. Further to my Compaq Presario desktop pc from 2005 postings. I have an evga gt 730 1gb gpu in it but was thinking would it perform better in gaming if I added an amd r7 250 1gb? I believe amd drivers are kept more up to date with older cards. than the nvidia equivalent. Would be a decent experiment. I will try it and report back.
    Drivers for such old cards are "ripe" for long time now so I doubt that any new drivers would bring you any better performance.
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  7. Posts : 14,024
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #787

    CountMike said:
    Drivers for such old cards are "ripe" for long time now so I doubt that any new drivers would bring you any better performance.
    Agreed.

    The issue with older things is once they are no longer produced, no longer in the supply channels to be sold there is no money coming in to the manufacturer to pay the programmers to keep the drivers/software up-to-date without taking away from other projects or newer technology. Some call it planned obsolescence but it's simply a matter of economics.
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  8. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
       #788

    Berton said:
    Agreed.

    The issue with older things is once they are no longer produced, no longer in the supply channels to be sold there is no money coming in to the manufacturer to pay the programmers to keep the drivers/software up-to-date without taking away from other projects or newer technology. Some call it planned obsolescence but it's simply a matter of economics.
    Ok guys, thanks for the input!
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  9. Posts : 3,514
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
       #789

    Why I insist on official manufacturer's drivers


    Hello!

    I just wanted to share my recent experience with my Fujitsu Stylistic Q702 tablet/laptop hybrid. My wife updated our internet connection from 50 Mbps to 100 Mbps. However when doing the speed test (www.speedtest.net) my laptop could only reach about 42 Mbps speed, even though I was connected to the 5G version of our Wi-Fi. I was about to call support to complain when my wife run the test at her own laptop and confirmed it could reach 95-100 Mbps. I then realized that Windows Update had replaced my Wi-Fi drivers with newer generic Microsoft drivers instead of the official Intel Advanced Centrino N-6205 wireless drivers. I downloaded the latest official Intel Advanced Centrino N-6205 Wireless drivers and installed them. As a miracle, the speed test show 100+ Mbps!

    That's why I always insist on manually downloading and installing the latest official manufacturer's drivers and avoid Windows Update. Yes, it is convenient to allow Windows Update to automatically find and install drivers, but with generic Microsoft drivers you have basic functionality that hardly enables the full potential of your devices. I leave Windows Update as the LAST resort If I do not have time or cannot find official drivers.

    I hope that helps.

    PS: For all of you that have the same or similar Intel wireless adapter, the driver was not available at Intel's site because the adapter is too old and they have dropped support. I searched with Google and found the driver at Lenovo's support site. So search for Intel N-6205 and go to the Lenovo result. If unsure which device you have, you can use Aida 64, Speccy or other hardware report utility. In Aida 64 go to the devices section.
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  10. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #790

    That reminds me about a friend who updated his internet to 400Mbps. I tested his laptop and only got around 35Mbps. I expected this because his laptop is probably around 7-8 years old. He could have gotten a USB Wi-Fi adapter for a faster internet speed. However, another solution was to make a wired Ethernet connection. This was easy because the router sat right behind the laptop.
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