Let's run Win10 on really really old hardware

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  1. Posts : 2,177
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #771

    milus said:
    My son bought an old Dell laptop from an auto junk yard for $0.50 and gave it to me. It would not even power up so I salvaged the hard drive and RAM from it. I use ProduKey to extract the keys from the drive. I now have free keys for Windows 7 Home Premium and Office 2007 Standard.

    BTW, the old Dell laptop used exactly the same power adapter as a Dell laptop I have. I will keep that for a spare.

    I have a desktop that I did a free upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit last January. I installed Office 2007 Standard on it using the new Office key. I already had a dual-boot with Windows 7 64-bit on it but it was not activated. I used the new Windows key to activate it.

    The hardest part was finding a good copy of Office 2007 Standard. I found a website that some computer support company has created for their field techs to access. It had copies of all kinds of software including MS Windows and MS Office. It clearly stated that its archive was open to the public. I downloaded the install files for Office 2007 Standard and Service Pack 3 for Office 2007. That site also had and ISO file for Windows 7 Home Premium but I already had that.
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  2. Posts : 31,473
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #772

    MisterEd said:
    My son bought an old Dell laptop from an auto junk yard for $0.50 and gave it to me. It would not even power up so I salvaged the hard drive and RAM from it. I use ProduKey to extract the keys from the drive. I now have free keys for Windows 7 Home Premium and Office 2007 Standard.
    BTW, the old Dell laptop used exactly the same power adapter as a Dell laptop I have. I will keep that for a spare.

    Congratulations, that is a bargain price for the spare charger alone. The Office 2007 key should be good too.

    You may not be so lucky with the Windows 7 key though. If this PC still had the original Dell pre-installed Win7 Home Premium then it would contain the generic Dell OEM System Locked Preinstalation key. This cannot be used to install and activate W7. If you can read the key from the CoA sticker (or it had been used to reinstall W7 at some time) then that would be of use.

    Dell's generic SLP key for their OEM W7 Home Premium is: 6RBBT-F8VPQ-QCPVQ-KHRB8-RMV82. If that's the key you found then you're out of luck. Still, two out of three ain't bad for $0.50.

    For Windows 7, the 25 digit product key was printed on a CoA but it is typically not used during Windows 7 Installation. Instead Windows 7 is activated from Factory using OEM System Locked Preinstallation. For Windows 7 OEM SLP three things are required:


    • The System has a SLIC Version of 2.1
    • The Installation Media Inputs:
      • A xrm-ms File.
      • A Generic OEM SLP Key (Generic for the OEM e.g. Dell and the Edition of Windows 7 e.g. Professional).

    Windows 7 OEM System Locked Preinstallation Activation - Windows 10 Installation Guides

    Edit:

    MisterEd said:
    ... I used the new Windows key to activate it....
    So it can't have been the generic SLP key after all, you lucked out.
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  3. Posts : 13,899
    Win10 Version 22H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home
       #773

    My latest foray into 'old' was removing the Win10 HDD from a Dell Latitude E6410, putting in a clean one and installing Win8.1 Ultimate on it, worked good except the onboard Wi-Fi could get Network but not Internet so I popped in a combo USB Wireless/Wi-Fi & Bluetooth dongle and got both. As winter sets in I'll investigate the issue further. Win10 didn't have the same problem so it's not a hardware problem.
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  4. Posts : 2,177
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #774

    Bree said:
    Congratulations, that is a bargain price for the spare charger alone. The Office 2007 key should be good too.
    You may not be so lucky with the Windows 7 key though. If this PC still had the original Dell pre-installed Win7 Home Premium then it would contain the generic Dell OEM System Locked Preinstalation key. This cannot be used to install and activate W7. If you can read the key from the CoA sticker (or it had been used to reinstall W7 at some time) then that would be of use.

    Dell's generic SLP key for their OEM W7 Home Premium is: 6RBBT-F8VPQ-QCPVQ-KHRB8-RMV82. If that's the key you found then you're out of luck. Still, two out of three ain't bad for $0.50.

    Windows 7 OEM System Locked Preinstallation Activation - Windows 10 Installation Guides

    Edit:

    So it can't have been the generic SLP key after all, you lucked out.
    The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1420. It came with Windows Vista so Windows 7 Home Premium was an upgrade.

    The Windows COA is badly worn. I can barely read Vista but not much else. I was able to read the Service Tag and Express Service Code. Unfortunately from past experience with Dell they keep no configuration information on old computers. In other words I do not know for sure what hardware is in the computer. From the Service Tag I did find the computer was shipped on October 28, 2008.
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  5. Posts : 31,473
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #775

    MisterEd said:
    The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1420. It came with Windows Vista so Windows 7 Home Premium was an upgrade.

    That was lucky.....

    Unfortunately from past experience with Dell they keep no configuration information on old computers. In other words I do not know for sure what hardware is in the computer. From the Service Tag I did find the computer was shipped on October 28, 2008....

    I'm surprised at that, I'd have expected Dell to still have the details. When I looked up the service tag of my oldest Dell (Latitude E4310) the 'View Warranty Details' link says it shipped on October 02 2012. The 'View system configuration' link gave full details of what it was shipped with. So I know that it no longer had its original HDD, and that its Win7 Pro was not the 32-bit it shipped with but has been reinstalled as 64-bit. ProduKey found it was reinstalled with its CoA key (presumably because its old drive had failed).

    Of course, I have it running 64-bit W10 2004 now.
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  6. Posts : 3,506
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
       #776

    Not sure if it violates the EULA, but a Dell key should activate by phone if cannot do so online. It is better to use a genuine key, even if your machine is not Dell, than use a pirated key.
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  7. Posts : 2,177
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #777

    Berton said:
    My latest foray into 'old' was removing the Win10 HDD from a Dell Latitude E6410, putting in a clean one and installing Win8.1 Ultimate on it, worked good except the onboard Wi-Fi could get Network but not Internet so I popped in a combo USB Wireless/Wi-Fi & Bluetooth dongle and got both. As winter sets in I'll investigate the issue further. Win10 didn't have the same problem so it's not a hardware problem.
    We bought a refurbished Dell Latitude E6410 from Dell I back in 2012 for around $440. It first shipped on 9/28/2010. I think it originally sold for around $1200. It came with Windows 7 Pro. I bought Windows 8 Pro for it in 2013 and installed it as a dual boot with Windows 7 Pro. I upgraded Windows 8 Pro to Windows 8.1 Pro for free from Microsoft later in 2013. A few years later I did a free upgrade from Windows 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro for free from Microsoft.

    I have had no Wi-Fi problems with any version of Windows on the Dell Latitude E6410.
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  8. Posts : 13,899
    Win10 Version 22H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home
       #778

    MisterEd said:
    We bought a refurbished Dell Latitude E6410 from Dell I back in 2012 for around $440. It first shipped on 9/28/2010. I think it originally sold for around $1200. It came with Windows 7 Pro. I bought Windows 8 Pro for it in 2013 and installed it as a dual boot with Windows 7 Pro. I upgraded Windows 8 Pro to Windows 8.1 Pro for free from Microsoft later in 2013. A few years later I did a free upgrade from Windows 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro for free from Microsoft.

    I have had no Wi-Fi problems with any version of Windows on the Dell Latitude E6410.
    Mine came off a company's Network but they forgot to properly disconnect from the Server [needed the password that was not furnished] so easiest thing was to clean install Win10. I have machines still able to run WinXP, WinVista, Win7, Win8.1 and Win10. Also have Linux Mint.
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  9. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (Insider)
       #779

    I have to believe there's a trick to advance Clover Trail, since after all they said I shouldn't be able to get to even 1809, but I did and it works fine. But whatever loophole I squeezed through back then has been closed, so a new one is needed.
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  10. Posts : 3,506
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
       #780

    I believe Microsoft just cuts the upgrade from older versions to v1809 and newer. However, a clean installation of v2004 or an upgrade from Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 v2004 could work. All you have to do is install the appropriate drivers. If you try it and succeed, please post here to let us know.
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