Let's run Win10 on really really old hardware

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  1. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       3 Weeks Ago #301

    spapakons said: View Post
    ... Obviously you cannot upgrade English US to English UK...
    Actually, that is one upgrade that you can do. I have successfully done an in-place repair install to switch my machine from en-us to en-gb base language. But that is only possible because you are changing the regional version of the same base language. It is not possible to change from Greek to English, as @Kari made me painfully aware a few years ago...

    When base language remains the same but is not the same regional version, Windows Setup warns about changing from one regional version of the language to another within same base language, yet allows user to keep installed software, settings and files.
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  2. spapakons's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1803 (April 2018 build 17134.407)
       3 Weeks Ago #302

    I didn't know that detail. Thank you for sharing.
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    Windows 7 and Windows 10
       3 Weeks Ago #303

    I have 1803 on some very basic old hardware. With the low spec ones I tend to find itís easier to burn the disc for say 1803 and do a clean install, rather than update it. Means backing everything up first. And as mentioned above, if your going to do that might as well try doing a clean install with 1809 first.
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1803 (April 2018 build 17134.407)
       3 Weeks Ago #304

    I would make a full disk backup (or clone) of current Windows 7 installation. Then try to upgrade it to Windows 10. Remember that it can take 2 hours or more on an old machine, be patient. If something goes wrong, you can format, do a new installation of Windows 10 and then retrieve your files from the backup. If the old machine is incompatible with Windows 10, restore Windows 7 from backup and forget about 10.
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #305

    The w7 laptop I am currently testing is almost unuseable even with 2GB RAM. CPU is always at 100% after windows have finished booting (CPU is a very weak one core 1.6GHz Celeron M). I will try process explorer or something trying to pinpoint the issue.
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  6.    2 Weeks Ago #306

    eLPuSHeR said: View Post
    The w7 laptop I am currently testing is almost unuseable even with 2GB RAM. CPU is always at 100% after windows have finished booting (CPU is a very weak one core 1.6GHz Celeron M). I will try process explorer or something trying to pinpoint the issue.
    A really cheap SSD will make a significant difference even with 2GB RAM.
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    Windows 7 and Windows 10
       2 Weeks Ago #307

    Also setting the look to Windows basic speeds things up. I have Windows 7 on a 900 MHz machine - set to Windows basic and 2gb ram it’s really quite nippy but that’s with an ssd.
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1803 (April 2018 build 17134.407)
       2 Weeks Ago #308

    For a Celeron M you should install Windows 7 32-bit and if the graphics card has no WDDM driver (Vista 32-bit or newer) the Windows XP driver (XPDM). Otherwise Windows use the Basic VGA (don't remember exactly) adapter without any acceleration and that explains the really slow performance and 100% CPU.
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  9.    2 Weeks Ago #309

    OK. After ten reformats or so I found out it was a newer WIFI driver. Uninstalled it and let W7 install its own driver (older). Now the computer is performing beautifully and everything is running fine, Youtube videos included. So if you run into a similar issue, check your drivers (newer doesn't mean better it seems).
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  10. spapakons's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1803 (April 2018 build 17134.407)
       2 Weeks Ago #310

    eLPuSHeR said: View Post
    OK. After ten reformats or so I found out it was a newer WIFI driver. Uninstalled it and let W7 install its own driver (older). Now the computer is performing beautifully and everything is running fine, Youtube videos included. So if you run into a similar issue, check your drivers (newer doesn't mean better it seems).
    That's precisely what I said. I rather install an older official driver than a newer generic driver from Windows Update. It usually is much more compatible and enables all features not available with the generic driver. Also always make sure your installation is complete with all drivers updated before you judge a system's performance. A driver can make a huge difference in performance, especially those of chipset and graphics.
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