Windows 10: Let's run Win10 on really really old hardware

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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.608)
       17 Jun 2016 #111

    BobPony said: View Post
    Since doing research, I found a pentium 4 socket 478 cpu that has the NX bit Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB)Here's the Intel CPU information from Intel's website: http://ark.intel.com/products/27453/...Hz-533-MHz-FSB
    I don't remember that being available in Greece...
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    Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
       17 Jun 2016 #112

    spapakons said: View Post
    I don't remember that being available in Greece...
    Probably you could research it more on Google?
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.608)
       17 Jun 2016 #113

    Even if it were available at some time, you would also need a socket 478 motherboard supporting NX/PAE and these were also rare and almost non-existent it Greece. if you know some specific models, you could have a look at eBay or Amazon, but I would not buy old hardware just to run Windows 10, I would rather buy newer hardware.
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.608)
       20 Jun 2016 #114

    Pinnacle PCTV USB doesn't work...


    Remember that I told you old devices can work in Windows 10 installing older drivers? Well, this is not always the case. I tried today to install an old Pinnacle PCTV USB device (the original USB 1.1 model with 320x240 max resolution, see photo).

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    I had to right click at all executable files (EXE) and then set compatibility to Windows XP SP2 and "Run as Administrator". The host computer was running Windows 10 Pro 32-bit, build 10586.420 During setup I was asked to allow a couple of drivers since they were not signed. Of course I replied YES/allow to proceed. After setup was over, the Pinnacle Vision application could not detect the device. I restarted the computer, then launched Device Manager and made sure any Pinnacle device had the original CD-ROM drivers (manually browsed and replaced the driver). Now the Pinnacle Vision application detected the driver and launched, but the video picture was black! I then tried another application, such as Media Player Classic. Again the video window was black, no live video picture from the analog source I had connected. The setup also installed a TWAIN (virtual scanner) driver which allows you to "scan" (take screenshots) from a live video source. This didn't work either, I had a black video picture. I even tried to save a snapshot just in case I could not see the picture, but I could capture it. Guess what? The resulting image was full black!

    Conclusions: Yes, the old Windows XP driver did work in Windows 10 32-bit and activated the hardware, but due probably to DirectDraw implementation differences there was no useful picture, only a black window. So yes, 99% of the cases you can use old hardware in Windows 10 installing an earlier Windows driver (even an XP driver) but there is that 1% chance it won't work properly. It would be better it there was a Vista 32-bit driver, but Pinnacle hasn't released one.

    Any other video device: Do you have at least Vista 32-bit driver? Try installing it, it could work. If you only have Windows XP drivers, it will probably just produce a black window as in my case, but it is worth trying.

    Case closed.
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  5.    23 Jun 2016 #115

    Hi guys, a few years back i made a mistake buying Win7 32-bit and now i want to buy Win10 64-bit.

    As it turns out my mobo (Asus P5Q Deluxe, 775 socket) doesn't seem to have a driver support for Windows 10 (on Asus official support site the latest OS i can choose is Vista, 7 and 8) and i'm concerned that i may have huge problems with this combo P5Q Deluxe+Win10 without proper drivers.

    Is it possible to use Win7 64-bit drivers for Win10 64-bit, with some crutches maybe? Or i making things up and all be fine?
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  6.    23 Jun 2016 #116

    HnKG36 said: View Post
    Hi guys, a few years back i made a mistake buying Win7 32-bit and now i want to buy Win10 64-bit.

    As it turns out my mobo (Asus P5Q Deluxe, 775 socket) doesn't seem to have a driver support for Windows 10 (on Asus official support site the latest OS i can choose is Vista, 7 and 8) and i'm concerned that i may have huge problems with this combo P5Q Deluxe+Win10 without proper drivers.

    Is it possible to use Win7 64-bit drivers for Win10 64-bit, with some crutches maybe? Or i making things up and all be fine?
    My buddy has one of those boards and C2D processor, W10 x64 works just fine on it. It was clean install without any additional drivers needed.
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  7.    23 Jun 2016 #117

    CountMike said: View Post
    My buddy has one of those boards and C2D processor, W10 x64 works just fine on it. It was clean install without any additional drivers needed.
    And he had no issues with default WIn10 drivers with audio or LAN?

    Maybe i should download some Win10 iso and try one, or Microsoft can provide with some demo?
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  8.    23 Jun 2016 #118

    HnKG36 said: View Post
    And he had no issues with default WIn10 drivers with audio or LAN?

    Maybe i should download some Win10 iso and try one, or Microsoft can provide with some demo?
    No problems with either and he's not too computer savvy either.
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  9.    23 Jun 2016 #119

    CountMike said: View Post
    No problems with either and he's not too computer savvy either.
    Ok, i'll try then, thx.
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  10.    23 Jun 2016 #120

    HnKG36 said: View Post
    Ok, i'll try then, thx.
    He did say that some driver finding and updating program found newer ones but I talked him out of it because those programs are often wrong.
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