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  1.    01 Oct 2016 #21
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    You could try the same in Safe Mode.
    (I have 3 demi-johns bubbling away- many years since we did that... don't think I'll graduate to a home still tho').

    If that fails, then you can try an in-place upgrade repair.. I've done it several times.
    An In-place upgrade repair install will fix many things, but not those where the settings are not changed by the procedure.

    For this you need an installation medium with the same base build as you have installed, and x64 if you have a 64 bits OS, else x86 (32 bits).

    Recommendation:
    Before you perform the following major repair procedure, do create a disk image (see below).

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
    - this includes a link from which you can obtain Windows 10 iso file (" download a Windows 10 ISO"), or create a bootable medium.

    I would recommend creating the bootable medium, as this can be used
    - for any future in-place upgrade repair install
    - to boot from and use its recovery options should Windows become unbootable.
    - to clean install Windows

    This will refresh Windows, after the manner of a Windows installation.
    - all/most associations will be unchanged
    - all your programs will be left installed
    - no personal data should be affected
    - you will lose any custom fonts
    - you will lose any customised system icons
    - you may need to re-establish your Wi-Fi connection
    - you will need to redo Windows updates subsequent to the build you have used for the repair install
    - Windows.old will be created
    - system restore will be turned off- you should turn it on again and I recommend you manually schedule a daily restore point.
    - you will need to redo any language downloads including the display language if you changed that)
    - inactive title bar colouring (if used) will be reset to default
    - if Qttabbar is installed, you need to re-enable it in explorer (Options, check Qttabbar)
    This is one of the better features of Win10: as each major build comes out, that's your updated reference build, and as updates are mostly cumulative, there will be few to do.


    Please consider using disk imaging regularly. It's a brilliant way to
    - preserve your system (and your sanity)
    - back up your data
    - restore your system to a previously working state in a relatively short time

    Recommended: Macrium Reflect (free/commercial) + boot disk/device + large enough external storage medium.
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  2.    01 Oct 2016 #22
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    SLC Utah
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    Thread Starter

    OK... I'll give it a shot.

    You said An In-place upgrade repair install will fix many things, but not those where the settings are not changed by the procedure.

    For this you need an installation medium with the same base build as you have installed, and x64 if you have a 64 bits OS, else x86 (32 bits).

    What do you mean not those where the settings are not changed by the procedure.

    Anyway.. I'm going to proceed.

    Well... actually I'm "Not" going to proceed. The link instructions indicate you have to turn off "secure boot". I don't have "UEFI Setting" option on the "trouble shooting" "advanced options" screen. I searched and can't find anything about how to turn off "secure boot" on my machine.

    Do you suggest I go back to DISM where before we failed at end of step 4. I believe steps 5 and 6 go into image recovery. Hell I don't know. I made an image of disk with the "Macrium Reflect" program. I also made a cd that does boot to that "Reflect" program.

    Just read that apparently that is something from Windows 8 and up. I upgraded from Win7. A little more reading mentions something about kernals or whatever

    Kinda Lost at this Point?

    Clean Install option.... Since I now have an image file from "Reflect"... is that the same as a backup? Can I restore programs from that if I did clean install?

    I just don't know what to do. Feeling like I just created a boat anchor out of the machine? Maybe it's time for a new laptop? Which sucks, but not sure what to do.

    Last edited by Mac762; 02 Oct 2016 at 01:41.
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  3.    02 Oct 2016 #23
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    You know, maybe I'm getting way off my original question. My computer seems to run fine other than the errors I get from SFC. Maybe those errors are just going to be "Ghosts in the Machine"?

    Anyway, any help of suggestions would be most appreciated. Should I start a "New" forum entry? God I just don't know what the heck to do.
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  4.    02 Oct 2016 #24
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,442
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    To eliminate the problems you've found requires one of the following:
    1. a build upgrade (e.g. 1511 to 1607
    2. an in-place upgrade repair install
    3. a clean install

    Of those I've used (2) successfully 3 times I think, and of course have done the others too.

    The link instructions indicate you have to turn off "secure boot". I don't have "UEFI Setting" option on the "trouble shooting" "advanced options" screen.
    Your laptop was first sold with Win 7, so you don't have UEFI at all - but a traditional BIOS.
    That means you won't have secure boot.

    So you should be able to do an in-place upgrade repair.

    I wonder if most tutorials are now based UEFI only where they mention it, and don't show the legacy BIOS case...
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  5.    02 Oct 2016 #25
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    SLC Utah
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    Thread Starter

    I have gone through my Bios Settings.. "secure boot" is not one of the options. From other things I've read, secure boot is a Windows 8 and up thing?

    How do I boot from a windows 10 Disk. Or.. how do i "create" and windows 10 disk?

    Please ... I'm desperate at this point.

    I think I found answer to my above question at Using the tool to create installation media (USB flash drive, DVD, or ISO file) to install Windows 10 on a different PC (click to show more or less information)

    I guess thats correct?
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  6.    02 Oct 2016 #26
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
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    I've explained the issue about secure boot above- see amended post. Yours is a legacy BIOS.

    Win 10 iso / bootable flash drive:
    Windows 10 ISO Download - Windows 10 Forums
    For a DVD just burn the iso to a DVD.

    For an in-place upgrade repair: log in as normal, insert DVD, run setup.exe from the DVD.
    Follow the tutorial.

    Good luck!
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  7.    02 Oct 2016 #27
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    SLC Utah
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    Thread Starter

    Yes.. everything I've seen talks about UEFI. So you're saying that using the upgrade repair "should in theory" work.. just disregard the disable secure comment in the instructions?

    Ok thanks for all your help.
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