Windows 10: Windows 10 takes 1 minute to boot Solved

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  1.    04 Sep 2016 #1

    Windows 10 takes 1 minute to boot


    Hello everyone,

    I have a lenovo y50 laptop with some decent specs:

    (i7-4700HQ, 8 GB Ram, Gtx 860m, 1TB HDD + 8 GB SSHD [Potential Problem Cause]). The HDD is WDC WD10S21X-24R1BT0-SSHD-8GB

    I never remember that my laptop had better boot times than 40 seconds. Every since I updated to Windows 10 things have gotten worse. My laptop takes about 1 minute + to boot. I click the button, BIOS boots in 3 seconds, Windows logo shows with the circle dot for a good 10 seconds then the screen turns black. It stays like that for 30 seconds or more. After that The screen turns blue while showing Welcome or Please Wait and finally it enters Desktop.

    What I have tried so far:

    1.Disabling Services on Startup

    This is clearly not the problem, I turned off almost everything, tried a clean boot, nothing helped.

    2. Playing with Boot Options on msconfig

    Changed Timeout Seconds, Check "No GUI", change max boot cores etc. Nothing helped.

    3. Played with a lot of Registry values on regedit


    Changed many things some values from 5000 to 1000, I edited and reverted so much things I can't remember.

    While playing with these
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlSession ManagerMemory Management]DisablePagingExecutive=1
    LargeSystemCache=1

    I got the next boot to be 22 seconds, everything went back after the next boot, so I changed them back to 0.

    POTENTIAL PROBLEM CAUSES:

    1.
    As I have read everywhere, it turns out the HDD this laptop has is awful, I can upload some benchmarks of its speed if needed.

    2.This laptop has a strange way to switch between graphics, it uses the Intel built in one for small use( probably for booting to ) , and the Nvidia Gtx 860m for heavy use and gaming.

    I tried removing the Intel graphics driver and the boot times got worse. I really think it's related to the Intel graphics because after Windows circle the screen goes black ( Sometimes the circle dots show again this time lagging)

    3. I ran a software called "Soluto" and found that multiple instances of Scvhost.exe run on boot so I don't know if that can be a problem.

    I would love for someone to connect the dots and direct me to the real problem, some broken drivers or a broken HDD. I saw people with the same laptop which can boot in 20 seconds. I once got a boot of 22 seconds which kinda told me this laptop has the potential to be fixed I just need to find the right cause.

    Sorry for the long post
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  2.    04 Sep 2016 #2

    Hi, in no particular order:

    1. Basics: your disk- try
    From an admin command prompt
    [Windows key + X, click command prompt (admin)]
    chkdsk C: /F
    Your PC will need to restart.
    Make sure the result is clear or fixed.
    Post back the result, which you can get after a restart as follows:
    How do I see the results of a CHKDSK that ran on boot? - Ask Leo!

    You can also check its SMART parameters - e.g. Crystal diskinfo (free).

    2, noted you have tried a clean boot.
    Are services back to default? It's not worth playing about with those unless you are a real expert- too many dependencies.
    If unsure, you can try Tweaking.com's cautious free repair tool, repairs 26,27 only.

    3, here's a clue about tools you might use to analyse startup performance:
    Windows Performance, Speed Up Boot Time, Xbootmgr | TechNet

    4, are you confident registry settings are back to default? E.g. did you back up and restore the registry, or set ad use a system restore point?

    5, have you tried disabling fast startup?

    6, have a look at threads (preferably solved) like this - search for
    slow boot
    Solved Slow boot on Win10 compared to Win7 - Windows 10 Forums

    7: are you confident your laptop (what is it? please complete system specs..) is listed as compatible with Win 10?
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  3.    04 Sep 2016 #3

    dalchina said: View Post
    Hi, first your disk:

    1. Basics: try
    From an admin command prompt
    [Windows key + X, click command prompt (admin)]
    chkdsk C: /F
    Your PC will need to restart.
    Make sure the result is clear or fixed.
    Post back the result, which you can get after a restart as follows:
    How do I see the results of a CHKDSK that ran on boot? - Ask Leo!

    You can also check its SMART parameters - e.g. Crystal diskinfo (free).

    2, noted you have tried a clean boot.
    Are services back to default? It's not worth playing about with those unless you are a real expert- too many dependencies.
    If unsure, you can try Tweaking.com's cautious free repair tool, repairs 26,27 only.

    3, here's a clue about tools you might use to analyse startup performance:
    Windows Performance, Speed Up Boot Time, Xbootmgr | TechNet

    4, are you confident registry settings are back to default? E.g. did you back up and restore the registry, or set ad use a system restore point?

    5, have you tried disabling fast startup?

    6, have a look at threads (preferably solved) like this - search for
    slow boot

    7: are you confident your laptop (what is it? please complete system specs..) is listed as compatible with Win 10?
    Thank you for your reply,

    First of all, yes I believe I'm quiet experienced with Windows.

    I did turn on all the services back after the clean boot. I thought about running a chkdsk but I thought it wouldn't help, but I will run one right now and report back. I feel so dumb for forgetting, If I turn fastboot on, boot times are somewhere to 45 seconds but shutdown takes 2 minutes so I just keep it off. I tried turning it on and off with powercfg but it didn't change much. Yes, my laptop is Win 10 compatible.

    About the registry settings, some I changed them to it's original value, some I left as they were. I have restore points which I can use to go back in case of an error. I will run a chkdsk right now and report back. Thanks again
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  4.    04 Sep 2016 #4

    ​RESULTS OF CHKDSK



    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.




    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.


    Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    395520 file records processed. File verification completed.
    14830 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed.
    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
    524778 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
    0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
    Cleaning up 3894 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 3894 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 3894 unused security descriptors.
    Security descriptor verification completed.
    64630 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    36736680 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.


    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required.


    463735807 KB total disk space.
    58311324 KB in 231664 files.
    148324 KB in 64631 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    521055 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    404755104 KB available on disk.


    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    115933951 total allocation units on disk.
    101188776 allocation units available on disk.


    Internal Info:
    00 09 06 00 28 84 04 00 ac 4e 08 00 00 00 00 00 ....(....N......
    44 01 00 00 e0 63 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D....c..........


    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
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  5. Posts : 2,465
    Windows 10.3 Home 1703 x64 (Home per choice)
       04 Sep 2016 #5

    Make sure, you have SATA updated, it helped me to increase my booting speed exponentially.
    You should not have Standard SATA AHCI Controller installed, but Intel or AMD instead.
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  6.    04 Sep 2016 #6

    TairikuOkami said: View Post
    Make sure, you have SATA updated, it helped me to increase my booting speed exponentially.
    You should not have Standard SATA AHCI Controller installed, but Intel or AMD instead.
    Installing Intel Rapid Storage Controller right now, in the meanwhile, I get quite a lot of Warnings/Errors on Event Viewer, will sharing those shed light on my problem? Thanks.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    04 Sep 2016 #7

    I now have Intel(R) 8 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller, did two boots. Last boot was 1 minute and 26 seconds, and I feel like overall performance has dropped. Will keep the driver just in case it's calibrating or something.
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  8. Posts : 15
    Windows 10/OS X 10.11 ADP
       04 Sep 2016 #8

    Have you installed the chipset drivers for your particular laptop from the manufacturers website? If Intel RST driver is not on your machine, then you probably don't have Intel Management Engine (which is super important for laptops battery wise) or all the dozens of miscellaneous drivers, any of which can be modified by your manufacturer to reflect modifications they made to off the shelf parts.

    Just like Intel RST drivers, most default Win 10 drivers are only installed if Windows does not have the capability to make use of the component without the driver. If Windows can use them at 10% of their performance, Windows won't update the driver to use them at 100%.
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  9.    04 Sep 2016 #9

    StarEmpire said: View Post
    Have you installed the chipset drivers for your particular laptop from the manufacturers website? If Intel RST driver is not on your machine, then you probably don't have Intel Management Engine (which is super important for laptops battery wise) or all the dozens of miscellaneous drivers, any of which can be modified by your manufacturer to reflect modifications they made to off the shelf parts.

    Just like Intel RST drivers, most default Win 10 drivers are only installed if Windows does not have the capability to make use of the component without the driver. If Windows can use them at 10% of their performance, Windows won't update the driver to use them at 100%.
    I installed the driver from the official lenovo website. I will upload a video of the boot process today, it maybe helps troubleshooting. Thanks
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  10.    04 Sep 2016 #10

    Here is a video of the boot process, I hope it helps. Forgive me for the low quality, I had to do it fast.

      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
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