Windows 10: Recovery options question

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  1.    01 Aug 2016 #11

    If you previously had Windows installed on a different drive and then installed Windows on Disk 1, Windows would not install a hidden System Partition on Disk 1, it would use the already existing System Partition on the previous Windows drive. If you were to remove that drive, then Windows will not boot. The other way is to clone just the Windows Partition and not the Hidden System Partition.
    As for Safe Mode, go to Settings/Update and security/Recovery/Advanced Startup/Restart Now/Trouble Shoot it will give you Safe Mode as one of the options.
    If you can't boot, just keep spamming F8. You may have to restart several times to get to Trouble Shooting.
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       01 Aug 2016 #12

    If you previously had Windows installed on a different drive and then installed Windows on Disk 1, Windows would not install a hidden System Partition on Disk 1, it would use the already existing System Partition on the previous Windows drive. If you were to remove that drive, then Windows will not boot. The other way is to clone just the Windows Partition and not the Hidden System Partition.
    @spunk
    This info is incorrect. His disk 0 and 2 contain only games. There's no hidden System Partition in this case but everything is in C: drive: Original Recovery, BCD (boot configuration file) and that's why C: partition is marked as "Active". If there's a hidden System Reserved partition then the System Reserved partition would be marked as "Active"
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  3.    01 Aug 2016 #13

    I don't know. I had the tech guy put the motherboard in and I'm pretty use my c drive was the disk 0 before and now it's 1. I had a partition on that drive and when I did the clean install I wiped out that partition and just left the drive as one. I had to format cause I wanted to get rid of the partitiion. Yeah I tried an upgrade first but was having problems so it was suggested to me in one of these forums to do a clean install.

    Is there any way to change the E and D drives to primary?


    topgundcp said: View Post
    From disk 1, Your Windows 10 OS. From what I saw, this is not a clean fresh install and I don't know how you did it.
    A fresh Windows 10 installation should have: 500MB System Reserved Partition and C drive. Normally, when you perform fresh install, you should not format the drive, just leave it unallocated and let Windows creates all needed partitions. In addition, you had 2 additional Recovery Partitions of 450 MB each, this indicated that you somehow did an upgrade.

    BTW, why did you configure your E: and D: drives as logical ? Normally, they should be congifured as Primary, not logical.
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       01 Aug 2016 #14

    The easiest way is to download: MiniTool Partition Wizard . Install and run, right click on E: ->set as primary. Do the same for D: then click "Apply" on the top left to commit the change.

    In addtition, you should swap the Sata cable between disk 0 and 1 to make your boot drive as Disk 0.
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  5.    01 Aug 2016 #15

    No windows was always on that drive, I think the tech might have connect the cable to the MB different. Safe mode I needed was when I couldn't boot up. I did try that F8 but only the boot menu comes up no option to go into safe mode/


    spunk said: View Post
    If you previously had Windows installed on a different drive and then installed Windows on Disk 1, Windows would not install a hidden System Partition on Disk 1, it would use the already existing System Partition on the previous Windows drive. If you were to remove that drive, then Windows will not boot. The other way is to clone just the Windows Partition and not the Hidden System Partition.
    As for Safe Mode, go to Settings/Update and security/Recovery/Advanced Startup/Restart Now/Trouble Shoot it will give you Safe Mode as one of the options.
    If you can't boot, just keep spamming F8. You may have to restart several times to get to Trouble Shooting.
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  6.    01 Aug 2016 #16

    I thought the tech might have mixed the cables to the MB up. Now with you saying that, I bet that's why it's listed as 0 now. I will try the minitool thing. Thanks

    topgundcp said: View Post
    The easiest way is to download: MiniTool Partition Wizard . Install and run, right click on E: ->set as primary. Do the same for D: then click "Apply" on the top left to commit the change.

    In addtition, you should swap the Sata cable between disk 0 and 1 to make your boot drive as Disk 0.
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  7.    01 Aug 2016 #17

    ok I did it. Now, there isn't any way of fixing the c drive with the 2 450mb healthy partition spots


    debgram said: View Post
    I thought the tech might have mixed the cables to the MB up. Now with you saying that, I bet that's why it's listed as 0 now. I will try the minitool thing. Thanks
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       01 Aug 2016 #18

    If there's not much installed in C: drive, I would re-install Windows 10 from fresh.
    1. Open the case and temporarity disconnect the sata cables from drive E: and D:.
    2. Boot up the PC with the installation USB/DVD.
    3. On first screen. Hold SHIFT+F10 to display the command prompt and type:
      diskpart
      select disk 0
      clean
      exit
      exit
    4. Continue the installation, select Custom, select the unallocated partition (do not format) then click Next, let Windows creates all needed partitions
    5. Once done. You should have 2 partitions: 500MB System reserved and C drive.
    6. Re-connect E; and D: drive.


    There will be an update to build 14393 tomorrow, so you might as well re-do it correctly to avoid any complication with future updates. Note that, with tomorrow update, you might get an extra 450MB recovery partition.
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  9.    01 Aug 2016 #19

    crap I just reinstalled everything a few days ago....lol I'll just set my updates so it doesn't install automatically. I won't be able to get to re do windows until late tomorrow or Wed.

    Oh when I do the disconnecting of e and d do I still swap out the cables for e and c



    topgundcp said: View Post
    If there's not much installed in C: drive, I would re-install Windows 10 from fresh.
    1. Open the case and temporarity disconnect the sata cables from drive E: and D:.
    2. Boot up the PC with the installation USB/DVD.
    3. On first screen. Hold SHIFT+F10 to display the command prompt and type:
      diskpart
      select disk 0
      clean
      exit
      exit
    4. Continue the installation, select Custom, select the unallocated partition (do not format) then click Next, let Windows creates all needed partitions
    5. Once done. You should have 2 partitions: 500MB System reserved and C drive.
    6. Re-connect E; and D: drive.


    There will be an update to build 14393 tomorrow, so you might as well re-do it correctly to avoid any complication with future updates. Note that, with tomorrow update, you might get an extra 450MB recovery partition.
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  10. topgundcp's Avatar
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       01 Aug 2016 #20

    Yes, You should always make your Boot drive (C drive) to be first (disk 0).
    Better idea is wait untill Win10 Build 14393 ISO becomes available then download and do a fresh install with new build.
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