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  1. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 78
    Windows 10
       26 Jun 2016 #1

    Unstable system


    I am so fed up with my laptop! Nothing but problems since I bought it!!! For some odd reason my system is not stable at all. I was discussing some of this in conjunction with another issue I'm having (setting up making an iso of windows 10 before the end of July deadline happens).

    I don't recall whom told me about it, but there is a system stability monitor buried within Windows 10. I ran that a few times, (actually forgot how to now), and my system has a rated stability of around 3-4 on a scale of 1-10. The two main issues, while reading through Facebook, Internet Explorer crashes on me and I have to reload IE then go back to Facebook again. OR....they computer completely crashes and the screen goes black and totally locks up forcing me to hit the power button to reboot it. I hate doing this because I know it's scrambling my system up ever time I do that.

    I have a bought and registered a copy of System Mechanic Premium installed. It's fixed a few problems I really don't fell like it's doing it's job if I keep crashing like I have been. What else can I do to make my laptop more stable? Heck, I'm really ticked off with Toshiba. I've already had to reinstall Windows 8.1 4-5 times now, then upgrade that to Win10. This one of the reasons I want the ISO of Windows 10 so I can do a completely clean install and not have any of the preloaded junk that Toshiba throws in with the recovery disks I made the day I bought it. For some odd reason, even though I've set it to do restore points, when I tried to do that today, said there was none!
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  2. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       26 Jun 2016 #2

    jayv2251 said: View Post
    I am so fed up with my laptop! Nothing but problems since I bought it!!! For some odd reason my system is not stable at all. I was discussing some of this in conjunction with another issue I'm having (setting up making an iso of windows 10 before the end of July deadline happens).

    I don't recall whom told me about it, but there is a system stability monitor buried within Windows 10. I ran that a few times, (actually forgot how to now), and my system has a rated stability of around 3-4 on a scale of 1-10. The two main issues, while reading through Facebook, Internet Explorer crashes on me and I have to reload IE then go back to Facebook again. OR....they computer completely crashes and the screen goes black and totally locks up forcing me to hit the power button to reboot it. I hate doing this because I know it's scrambling my system up ever time I do that.
    Hi.
    First of all, I wouldn't be using Internet Explorer, but the stability issues you're having seem to be pretty abundant. I'm sure a clean install would resolve most, if not all, of your problems.

    jayv2251 said: View Post
    I have a bought and registered a copy of System Mechanic Premium installed. It's fixed a few problems I really don't fell like it's doing it's job if I keep crashing like I have been. What else can I do to make my laptop more stable? Heck, I'm really ticked off with Toshiba. I've already had to reinstall Windows 8.1 4-5 times now, then upgrade that to Win10. This one of the reasons I want the ISO of Windows 10 so I can do a completely clean install and not have any of the preloaded junk that Toshiba throws in with the recovery disks I made the day I bought it. For some odd reason, even though I've set it to do restore points, when I tried to do that today, said there was none!
    Once installed and activated on a system, Windows 10 can be reinstalled as many times as you want/need, without having to go through the upgrade process over and over again.

    If you are ready to clean install, and all your data is backed up, you can download the ISO from MSTechBench.
    Tech Bench

    Then, use RUFUS to create a bootable USB stick for the installation.
    Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

    Download ShowKeyPlus to grab your W8 keycode, if you don't have it written down.
    Showkey - Windows 10 Forums

    Boot to the USB stick, and select custom installation. Delete all partitions on the operating system drive, so that it shows as "unallocated space". Then begin your install. When/if it asks for a key, select "I don't have a key". After the installation is complete, check if the system is activated. It should be, as you've already had W10 on the thing. If not, give it a couple reboots and check again.

    Be sure to turn on System Restore (it's off by default), and turn off Fast Startup.
    Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

    Good luck.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 107
    windows 10
       27 Jun 2016 #3

    simrick,
    pardon me for butting in here, but why would you turn off fast start up?
    thanks
    Sven
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  4. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       27 Jun 2016 #4

    Sven1458 said: View Post
    simrick,
    pardon me for butting in here, but why would you turn off fast start up?
    thanks
    Sven
    Hi Sven.
    Fast Startup sometimes prevents things from completely settling in. I like to turn it off after a clean install, an upgrade install, or major WU. Some things (usually drivers) just need it. You can always turn it back on later. It's difficult to explain, but hopefully this will help:

    To understand what this is/does (it was first introduced in Windows 8):
    “Fast Startup (aka: hybrid boot or hybrid Shutdown) is a new feature in Windows 8 to help your PC start up faster after shutting down. When turned on, Windows 8 does this by using a hybrid shutdown (a partial hibernate) method that saves only the kernel session and device drivers (system information) to the hibernate (hiberfil.sys) file on disk instead of closing it when you shut down your PC. This also makes the hiberfil.sys file to be much smaller than what hibernate would use (often 4GB or more). When you start your PC again, Windows 8 uses that saved system information to resume your system instead of having to do a cold boot to fully restart it. Using this technique with boot gives a significant advantage for boot times, since reading the hiberfile in and reinitializing drivers is much faster on most systems (30-70% faster on most systems tested). If you have a motherboard with UEFI, then fast startup will be even faster.”
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  5. Joined : Jul 2015
    Eastbourne East Sussex UK
    Posts : 2,440
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 143934.693
       27 Jun 2016 #5

    jayv2251 said: View Post
    I am so fed up with my laptop! Nothing but problems since I bought it!!! For some odd reason my system is not stable at all. I was discussing some of this in conjunction with another issue I'm having (setting up making an iso of windows 10 before the end of July deadline happens).

    I don't recall whom told me about it, but there is a system stability monitor buried within Windows 10. I ran that a few times, (actually forgot how to now), and my system has a rated stability of around 3-4 on a scale of 1-10. The two main issues, while reading through Facebook, Internet Explorer crashes on me and I have to reload IE then go back to Facebook again. OR....they computer completely crashes and the screen goes black and totally locks up forcing me to hit the power button to reboot it. I hate doing this because I know it's scrambling my system up ever time I do that.

    I have a bought and registered a copy of System Mechanic Premium installed. It's fixed a few problems I really don't fell like it's doing it's job if I keep crashing like I have been. What else can I do to make my laptop more stable? Heck, I'm really ticked off with Toshiba. I've already had to reinstall Windows 8.1 4-5 times now, then upgrade that to Win10. This one of the reasons I want the ISO of Windows 10 so I can do a completely clean install and not have any of the preloaded junk that Toshiba throws in with the recovery disks I made the day I bought it. For some odd reason, even though I've set it to do restore points, when I tried to do that today, said there was none!
    Have you tried Face Book through Windows 10
    It should install when you download and upgrade to 10
    You will find it in the Apps Section.
    I use Edge but Find that Face Book is a lot more stable via Windows 10 than going through any other Browser
    Also that is one reason why I got rid of IE11 as it kept crashing
    I use Auslogics or Ccleaner to keep my Toshiba Running fast as when I tried System Mechanic I found it a load of rubbish.
    Also make sure you do a Defrag as that will keep your laptop running as it should.
    Ccleaner has a Systems Restore you can use I find it better than the built in one
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 107
    windows 10
       27 Jun 2016 #6

    simrick,
    thanks for the clarification.
    I have fast boot enabled, and never had a problem, but I might just be lucky
    Sven
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  7. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       27 Jun 2016 #7

    Sven1458 said: View Post
    simrick,
    thanks for the clarification.
    I have fast boot enabled, and never had a problem, but I might just be lucky
    Sven
    Yes, for some systems it makes no difference, for others it makes all the difference. Just have to try it and find out.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       27 Jun 2016 #8

    Sven1458 said: View Post
    simrick, pardon me for butting in here, but why would you turn off fast start up?
    Windows 10 - Clean Install

    warning   Warning
    Before you get started installing Windows 10, be sure that you temporarily disable Secure Boot and Fast Boot in your UEFI firmware settings until finished. Some motherboards do not support booting from a USB flash drive with these enabled.

    Once installation has finished, you can enable Secure Boot and Fast Boot again if you like.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 107
    windows 10
       27 Jun 2016 #9

    Slartybart,
    I read that when I was installing w 10, but the post above said to disable after install.
    That is what prompted my response, since I never had a problem
    Sven
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  10. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       27 Jun 2016 #10

    Secure Boot/Fast Boot are different - they are in your BIOS settings. Fast Startup is in the Operating System itself.
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