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  1.    12 May 2016 #11
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    Try doing the following:

    1. Open a cmd window with elevated privileges (cmd.exe). Type "bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy", without quotes to enable booting options with F8 key at startup.
    2. Reboot. Enter BIOS and configure SATA as IDE.
    3. Boot Windows into safe mode by pressing F8 before it loads.
    4. Open Device Manager to check SATA is actually set to IDE mode.
    5. Reboot again. Enter BIOS and set SATA to AHCI mode.
    6. Boot again into safe mode (F8). Enter Device Manager and check that AHCI is enabled (even if it's using standard MS AHCI driver).
    7. Reboot and boot Windows NORMALLY.
    8. If you mainboard uses an Intel chipset, try downloading latest chipset driver from Intel webpage. Install it.
    9. Do not install anything else for now (like Intel Rapid Storage thing). Check first if everything is fine.
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  2.    12 May 2016 #12
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    You might have posted that file here in the thread as well, no problem is there with it; it does not share any of your personal information (other than the username of the computer).

    # Well, with 27 statrup items, boot must be slow. IDE, AHCI, SCSI, nothing have anything to do there. And apparently you dont really need anything there other than DisplayFusion. Clean it up, reboot time should be improved upto a certain level.
    Follow this guide: Clean Boot - Perform in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts - Windows 10 Forums

    # You have a great lot of storage. But as you have the SSD, generally it is used as the C drive, and the C drive should come first in the disk order. Apparently the 120 GB Crucial SSD is the C drive there, but it is the fourth one in the disk order.
    Code:
    Model    M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Partition    Disk #4, Partition #0 ===> C Drive
    Partition Size    118.80 GB (127,561,367,552 bytes) 
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Partition    Disk #4, Partition #1
    Partition Size    450.00 MB (471,859,200 bytes)
    Please arrange the Disks properly. And tally it with the Boot order set into the BIOS.

    # This driver ..... I am not finding any reason for it to be there .....
    Code:
    Name    Asmedia 106x SATA Controller
    Driver    c:\windows\system32\drivers\asstor64.sys (2.0.8.0, 82.83 KB (84,816 bytes), 1/27/2014 5:30 PM)
    The motherboard supports Intel SATA, which is now managed by microsoft AHCI driver Storahci.sys; Gigabyte SATA (RAID Mode, powered by JMicron), now disabled and managed by microsoft driver; and Marvell RAID (apparently not in use). So I am not seeing a reason for ASmedia RAID driver to be there.

    Take care of these three things and let us know the result. We may need to dig further, but these three are the first things to look at.
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  3.    12 May 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by eLPuSHeR View Post
    Try doing the following:

    1. Open a cmd window with elevated privileges (cmd.exe). Type "bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy", without quotes to enable booting options with F8 key at startup.
    2. Reboot. Enter BIOS and configure SATA as IDE.
    3. Boot Windows into safe mode by pressing F8 before it loads.
    4. Open Device Manager to check SATA is actually set to IDE mode.
    5. Reboot again. Enter BIOS and set SATA to AHCI mode.
    6. Boot again into safe mode (F8). Enter Device Manager and check that AHCI is enabled (even if it's using standard MS AHCI driver).
    7. Reboot and boot Windows NORMALLY.
    8. If you mainboard uses an Intel chipset, try downloading latest chipset driver from Intel webpage. Install it.
    9. Do not install anything else for now (like Intel Rapid Storage thing). Check first if everything is fine.
    Okay, will try those things, but when I go to my controllers right now, it is mentioning both IDE and AHCI. Does that mean some drives are using AHCI and others IDE? I do recall before enabling AHCI in my BIOS AHCI did not show up at all in this list.

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  4.    12 May 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arc View Post
    You might have posted that file here in the thread as well, no problem is there with it; it does not share any of your personal information (other than the username of the computer).

    # Well, with 27 statrup items, boot must be slow. IDE, AHCI, SCSI, nothing have anything to do there. And apparently you dont really need anything there other than DisplayFusion. Clean it up, reboot time should be improved upto a certain level.
    Follow this guide: Clean Boot - Perform in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts - Windows 10 Forums

    # You have a great lot of storage. But as you have the SSD, generally it is used as the C drive, and the C drive should come first in the disk order. Apparently the 120 GB Crucial SSD is the C drive there, but it is the fourth one in the disk order.
    Code:
    Model    M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Partition    Disk #4, Partition #0 ===> C Drive
    Partition Size    118.80 GB (127,561,367,552 bytes) 
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Partition    Disk #4, Partition #1
    Partition Size    450.00 MB (471,859,200 bytes)
    Please arrange the Disks properly. And tally it with the Boot order set into the BIOS.

    # This driver ..... I am not finding any reason for it to be there .....
    Code:
    Name    Asmedia 106x SATA Controller
    Driver    c:\windows\system32\drivers\asstor64.sys (2.0.8.0, 82.83 KB (84,816 bytes), 1/27/2014 5:30 PM)
    The motherboard supports Intel SATA, which is now managed by microsoft AHCI driver Storahci.sys; Gigabyte SATA (RAID Mode, powered by JMicron), now disabled and managed by microsoft driver; and Marvell RAID (apparently not in use). So I am not seeing a reason for ASmedia RAID driver to be there.

    Take care of these three things and let us know the result. We may need to dig further, but these three are the first things to look at.
    Thanks for the tips.


    My computer gets hung up loading before I even get to the windows logon screen. So I don't think it would be my startup items causing the slowdown, right?

    This is the screen it takes a long time loading at: http://fud.community.services.suppor...1-fd438b28f841


    How would I go about changing the disk #? I'm familiar with changing the drive letter but not the disk #.


    I don't see Asmedia 106x SATA Controller in Device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers or in add/remove programs. Should I just delete c:\windows\system32\drivers\asstor64.sys and that will fully remove it?
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  5.    12 May 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsagetfullhou View Post
    My computer gets hung up loading before I even get to the windows logon screen. So I don't think it would be my startup items causing the slowdown, right?
    Not right always. Some startup items create the environment in which the OS loads. So the startup items can cause this issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobsagetfullhou View Post
    How would I go about changing the disk #? I'm familiar with changing the drive letter but not the disk #.
    Open the computer and re-arrange the SATA cables. All the SATA ports on the motherboard are numbered, follow that numbering. In needed, take the help from the manual. If you dont have it, download it form the board manufacturer's website.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobsagetfullhou View Post
    I don't see Asmedia 106x SATA Controller in Device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers or in add/remove programs. Should I just delete c:\windows\system32\drivers\asstor64.sys and that will fully remove it?
    That will disable the driver, but I doubt that the memory resources used by it and IRQ16 will be free from it by doing this.

    At the first place, I wonder where and how have you got this driver in your system? How have you installed windows and how have you got the drivers?
    The proper and perfect answer to this question will be very important.
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  6.    12 May 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arc View Post
    Not right always. Some startup items create the environment in which the OS loads. So the startup items can cause this issue.

    Open the computer and re-arrange the SATA cables. All the SATA ports on the motherboard are numbered, follow that numbering. In needed, take the help from the manual. If you dont have it, download it form the board manufacturer's website.


    That will disable the driver, but I doubt that the memory resources used by it and IRQ16 will be free from it by doing this.

    At the first place, I wonder where and how have you got this driver in your system? How have you installed windows and how have you got the drivers?
    The proper and perfect answer to this question will be very important.
    I will try and remove a few startups but the thing is all of these were enabled when I was on IDE and it never affected boot speed.

    You know what. I have only 2 SATA 3 connectors on my motherboard. They are #3 and #4. That is the reason I believe it is set this way. All the others are SATA 2 and I think that would decrease the performance even more if I moved my SSD to that.

    Recently, after I turned on AHCI, I went to my motherboards driver page and installed several drivers that I thought might help. This might be an old one that is no longer needed. How should I fully remove it from the system if not just removing the .sys file?

    Also of mention, my BIOS has several areas where to turn on AHCI from IDE. There seems to be a universal section to set IDE or AHCI, which I was successfully able to turn on ACHI to. But for the controller my SSD is on (GSata something) I was unable to turn this from IDE to AHCI without getting a blue screen. I thought maybe the universal section being turned on overrode this section section so I didn't need to pursue turning it on further. Also, when running HD speed tests on my SSD when the universal controller is set to IDE to AHCI shows a clear performance boost when AHCI is on, so I do believe the SSD is still in AHCI mode. I know this might be confusing but I will take a screenshot of my BIOS when I return home from work.
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  7.    12 May 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsagetfullhou View Post
    I will try and remove a few startups but the thing is all of these were enabled when I was on IDE and it never affected boot speed.

    You know what. I have only 2 SATA 3 connectors on my motherboard. They are #3 and #4. That is the reason I believe it is set this way. All the others are SATA 2 and I think that would decrease the performance even more if I moved my SSD to that.
    You have two SATA 3 connections, those are Marvell 9128, and Marvell is not in use by you.
    Those ports work as 6GBPS with the Marvell controller installed. As that is not installed, all are equal, all are 3GBPS SATA II ports.

    Moreover, #3 and #4 cannot be a combination .... the ports are in pair and numbered from 0.
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    Plus, out of 27 startup items, "a few" explanation is not very clear.

    The Asmedia mystery is also not even made to clear by you at all.

    Overall, I am having an impression that you are not very eager to follow the suggestions .... so I dont see any further reason to stick with this thread.
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  8.    12 May 2016 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arc View Post
    You have two SATA 3 connections, those are Marvell 9128, and Marvell is not in use by you.
    Those ports work as 6GBPS with the Marvell controller installed. As that is not installed, all are equal, all are 3GBPS SATA II ports.

    Moreover, #3 and #4 cannot be a combination .... the ports are in pair and numbered from 0.
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    Plus, out of 27 startup items, "a few" explanation is not very clear.

    The Asmedia mystery is also not even made to clear by you at all.

    Overall, I am having an impression that you are not very eager to follow the suggestions .... so I dont see any further reason to stick with this thread.
    Arc, I'm sorry if I've given that impression. That is not my intention, I appreciate you helping.

    You are right, my mistake, my SSD is plugged into either GSATA3_7 or GSATA3_6. After moving my SSD to one of these ports I am indeed getting SATA III 6gbs speeds as per speccy:

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    Right now, only 22 of my startup items are enabled:
    I will disable:
    JMB36X raidtool since I don't use raid
    Java
    Unified Remote
    Steam
    Private Internet Access
    Plex media server
    Galaxy Client
    BID Drop Boc
    AirVideoServer
    Autostartvma

    Other things I will like to stay in the startup such as my AV and several other things I use at startup.


    I honestly don't know why the Asmedia driver is there, or else I would give you more information. At this point I think it just makes senses to remove it and see if it improves performance. If not and it causes issues I have a backup.

    Edit: I disabled the Asmeda 106x SATA controller, and my L: drive (ST4000DM000-1F21 SCSI, connected through ESATA) immediately disappeared. Looks like it uses it.
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  9.    13 May 2016 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsagetfullhou View Post
    Okay, will try those things, but when I go to my controllers right now, it is mentioning both IDE and AHCI. Does that mean some drives are using AHCI and others IDE? I do recall before enabling AHCI in my BIOS AHCI did not show up at all in this list.

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    Yes. You are right and this is normal. When there is only IDE, no AHCI entry should appear.
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  10.    13 May 2016 #20

    You can also disable java (keep an eye on download sites for updates) and Steam. It doesn't need to auto start.
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