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  1.    02 May 2016 #1
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    New system build, new long boot times


    So this one I've done a lot of searching on and I haven't found an answer that's worked for me, yet.

    Last week I got a new motherboard, processor, and RAM. I installed the new components followed by a fresh install of Windows 10, got it activated, everything seemed good...

    Except my boot times. I noticed it during the installation process as well. My POST is normal. As soon as I get to the set of rotating dots, indicating that Windows is booting, it takes several minutes to get to login screen.

    My boot drive is a set of Samsung 250GB 950 EVOs running in RAID 0 using the Intel Rapid Storage function on this board. I think it might be related to this, but again, with all the searching I've done I still can't find an answer.

    Is there a way to see what's actually happening during the boot process to indicate where the hang occurs?

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  2.    02 May 2016 #2
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Hi BobbyMartin and welcome to Ten Forums!

    Why are you running RAID 0? Makes no sense to me. Set it as normal Sata drive and enjoy! It isn't worth some extra sustainable transfer speed over problems you may get into.

    Just pick one EVO 850 drive and put system on it.
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  3.    02 May 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    Hi BobbyMartin and welcome to Ten Forums!

    Why are you running RAID 0? Makes no sense to me. Set it as normal Sata drive and enjoy! It isn't worth some extra sustainable transfer speed over problems you may get into.

    Just pick one EVO 850 drive and put system on it.
    That's one solution, maybe. I haven't tested what the boot speed would be if I were installed on a single drive. This, however, isn't the solution to the issue that I'm looking for.
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  4.    02 May 2016 #4
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,108
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hi, if you Shift + click Restart and navigate to Startup Settings and then make the appropriate choice, you can get a verbose log of startup activity.

    Presumably you're using AHCI for your SSDs, but that alone wouldn't account for the time you're reporting of course.

    Also: see event viewer, event id 100.

    I have an additional suggestion for tracking boot time. It is via Event 100 in Event viewer. Drill down this chain:
    Eventvwr
    -->Applications and Service Logs
    -->Microsoft
    -->Windows
    -->Diagnostics - performance
    -->Operational
    -->Event ID 100<--
    Then double click on Event 100 which gives you this small window indicating the boot time.

    Then click on the 'Details' tab which gives you all this additional information from which you should be able to determine the process which takes the most time during boot.

    From
    How to diagnose slow booting or logon in Windows? - Super User

    And there's xperf:
    Analyzing a Slow Boot with Windows Performance Recorder Helge Klein
    Last edited by dalchina; 02 May 2016 at 06:57.
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  5.    02 May 2016 #5
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Woo! Take a look.

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 202422ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2016‎-‎04‎-‎29T00:23:41.620299100Z

    - EventData
    BootTsVersion 2
    BootStartTime 2016-04-29T00:23:41.620299100Z
    BootEndTime 2016-04-29T00:28:34.082671900Z
    SystemBootInstance 8
    UserBootInstance 6
    BootTime 202422
    MainPathBootTime 189022
    BootKernelInitTime 14
    BootDriverInitTime 102
    BootDevicesInitTime 1022
    BootPrefetchInitTime 0
    BootPrefetchBytes 0
    BootAutoChkTime 0
    BootSmssInitTime 185732
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 262
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 1283
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 16
    BootExplorerInitTime 446
    BootNumStartupApps 26
    BootPostBootTime 13400
    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 16384
    BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    BootIsDegradation false
    BootIsStepDegradation false
    BootIsGradualDegradation false
    BootImprovementDelta 0
    BootDegradationDelta 0
    BootIsRootCauseIdentified true
    OSLoaderDuration 462
    BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 14
    BootPNPInitDuration 1216
    OtherKernelInitDuration 126
    SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 1325
    SystemPNPInitDuration 59
    SessionInitStartTimeMS 1402
    Session0InitDuration 1439
    Session1InitDuration 774
    SessionInitOtherDuration 183518
    WinLogonStartTimeMS 187135
    OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 141
    UserLogonWaitDuration 12775
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  6.    02 May 2016 #6
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,108
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hi, for comparison my figures (12s or so to lock screen, nominal 36s or so according to Wise:
    Mine Yours
    BootSmssInitTime
    4578 185732

    BootNumStartupApps
    60 26

    BootPostBootTime
    48500 13400

    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits
    0 16384

    BootIsRootCauseIdentified
    false true

    SessionInitOtherDuration
    3783 183518

    WinLogonStartTimeMS
    6593 187135

    I've just picked out the significant differences.

    I'm afraid interpreting that is either up to you, or anyone who can join this thread and is familiar with these... I've never done so..

    For info ref. Critical, Warning etc:
    Diagnostics-Performance log Event 100 - Critical, Error, or Warning - when and why?
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  7.    02 May 2016 #7
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    Time to lock screen is about 3m18s.
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  8.    04 May 2016 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyMartin View Post
    Time to lock screen is about 3m18s.
    I was reading online about a similar issue to yours ....this other person when he set backups on other drives would cause the bootup time to be more than 2mins .....reformatting the backup drives seemed top solve the issue ....however ....don't go doing this without putting your backups somewhere else. Think it was related to VSS. Try unplugging all the extra drives leaving just the OS. If your boot increases then I guess you have the same/similar issue.
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  9.    04 May 2016 #9
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    Thread Starter

    Doesn't look like that's a solution either. In the link below you'll find the bootlog. Maybe someone can make more sense of it that I can.

    Online Notepad - Anotepad.com
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  10.    04 May 2016 #10
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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyMartin View Post
    Doesn't look like that's a solution either. In the link below you'll find the bootlog. Maybe someone can make more sense of it that I can.

    Online Notepad - Anotepad.com
    Only other thing I can suggest at present is install windows performance toolkit from windows ADK and run this line xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot , it will even ive you a better idea of what the problem is in the trace logs. I used the tool on my win 10 system and reduced my boot time by 52 seconds. If readyboot stops repopulating after using this tool then copy contents of readyboot to a temp folder, copy rest of contents to another temp folder delete prefetch folder and reboot, then replace all the optimized files back to prefetch. Its unlikely you will have to do this ...its just my folder lost its permissions after i defragged.
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