Windows 10 thinks my 2 Raid 0 SATA hard drives are SST, can't defrag

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  1. Posts : 7
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    Windows 10 thinks my 2 Raid 0 SATA hard drives are SST, can't defrag


    I tried updating my Windows 7 Pro system to windows 10 pro. The update went Ok but I noticed that my Raid 0 configuration is now considered an SSD and Windows won't let me defrag my drives. I found a comment online that running Windat formal will clear up the issue, but it didn't work for me. I have currently rolled back to Windows 7 so I don't hit the 30 day rollback option.

    Has anyone else run into this problem and have found a solution?

    Thanks, Mrbill57
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  2. Posts : 1,579
    Windows 10 Pro
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    A little more rigorous variant of that would have been "winsat formal -restart clean". Don't know if it's worth re-upgrading and trying again, however.

    Afraid I don't know at this point if that's the solution you're asking for.
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  3. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Word Man, thanks for the quick reply and your suggestion. I'm going to add it to my "try windows 10 again" list of possible fixes.

    Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated! I'll add an update on my next attempt here.

    Mrbill57
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  4. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Pro
    Thread Starter
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    Word Man said:
    A little more rigorous variant of that would have been "winsat formal -restart clean". Don't know if it's worth re-upgrading and trying again, however.

    Afraid I don't know at this point if that's the solution you're asking for.
    So today is a holiday for me, so I thought I'd try Windows 10 upgrade again. I checked Defrag, and my Raid configuration still shows Solid State Drives, can't run Defrag. I tried your suggestion on running "winsat formal -restart clean" but Defrag still shows SSD for drive. I looked under "System Information, Storage, Disks" and that correctly shows:
    Windows 10 thinks my 2 Raid 0 SATA hard drives are SST, can't defrag-drives.jpg

    Here is what Defrag shows: Windows 10 thinks my 2 Raid 0 SATA hard drives are SST, can't defrag-defrag.jpg

    Not sure what that second drive \\?Volume... is
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  5. Posts : 1,579
    Windows 10 Pro
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    mrbill57 said:
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    Not sure what that second drive \\?Volume... is
    That's your WinRE (Windows Recovery Environment) partition and is used for Windows recovery and advanced booting/troubleshooting options - not normally written to and (even though it will show in the optimize GUI) no need to worry about or optimize that.

    As RAID setups are not in my bailiwick of experience, I will stand back and see if another member with more appropriate skills/experience can help you.

    Just in case it matters to another reader, is it possible the disk in question is a hybrid HDD with SSD cache ?
    - don't know if that confuses Win10 or if that is caught in a Win10 "gap" that MS hasn't closed yet.
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  6. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Pro
    Thread Starter
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    I tried the Microsoft Support route to see what they could do. After 3 hours, yes 3 their next attempt was to download Windows 10 upgrade and re-install. This option came with a warning that I won't be able to roll back to Windows 7 with this install. I finally hit the reality that MS has no clue on how to fix this issue. Apparently MS doesn't have a known fix that their Tech Support has available. I ended the support and may roll back to Windows 7 and try again later. Frustrating
    Last edited by mrbill57; 18 Jan 2016 at 18:04.
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  7. Posts : 1,579
    Windows 10 Pro
       #7

    Oh nooooo, Mr. Bill. I'm sorry to hear of your experience with MS support but can't really say I'm surprised. I've put a request into the VIP forum here to try and get you some more appropriate help.
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  8. Posts : 7
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    Thread Starter
       #8

    Word Man said:
    Oh nooooo, Mr. Bill.
    I never was known as that until Saturday Night Live!

    You just showed my age!!
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  9. Posts : 1,579
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    mrbill57 said:
    I never was known as that until Saturday Night Live!

    You just showed my age!!
    Hehe, mine too, for what that's worth!
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  10. Posts : 16,325
    W10Prox64
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    Oh noooooooooooo Mr Bill! (Yeah, showing my age too!)

    I will preface this post by saying that I know very little about RAID arrays, but thought you might be interested to see this:
    Intel RST installation incorrectly sets hard dr... | Intel Communities

    It appears to be, and has been, a problem with the IRST.
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