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  1.    17 Oct 2014 #1
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    Windows 8.1 Update 1

    Startup Slow


    I don't if this is already a feature I don't know about or if its something i should suggest to Microsoft to implement...
    After the welcome screen when it shows the desktop, my laptop is normally unresponsive for around 30 seconds.
    I know that part pf the reason for this is because I have some programs start up automatically:
    eM Client
    CCleaner
    MalwareBytes
    SuperAntiSpyware
    Bluetooth Devices
    NVIDIA Geforce Experience
    Onedrive Syncing
    Microsoft Upload Center
    However is there not a program to stop these programs from hogging the system resources when starting up.

    James
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  2.    17 Oct 2014 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    UK
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    Windows 10

    Not sure if any of this is a help

    https://www.tenforums.com/general-dis...t-windows.html
    Startup Delay Time - Reduce in Windows 8

    They talk about apps starting upon startup
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  3.    17 Oct 2014 #3
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    Windows 8.1 Update 1
    Thread Starter

    thanks for the reply but delaying it wont really solve my problem as the way i see it, yes you will get a faster startup with a responsive system straight from login but when it comes to the programs starting up (in a delayed timing) wont the system be unresponsive then also?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulsalter View Post
    Not sure if any of this is a help

    https://www.tenforums.com/general-dis...t-windows.html
    Startup Delay Time - Reduce in Windows 8

    They talk about apps starting upon startup
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  4.    17 Oct 2014 #4
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    Host W8.0 x64 Guest W10 x86

    I use a few small hotkey programs I wrote that sit in the tray. I run W10 32 bit using VMWare Player. I also have VMs with W7 both 32 and 64 bit. Compared to W7 W10 loads anything in the tray in glacial mode. I'm talking like 2 minutes just for all the tray icons to show time starting from the first icon.

    Also as I already mentioned, there seems no rhyme or reason which program may be started from the user's StartUp folder, which using the Registry Run key and which have to be started manually. It's even a bit slower after Classic Start Menu is added.
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  5.    17 Oct 2014 #5
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    Windows 8.1 Update 1
    Thread Starter

    what is glacial mode and what hotkey programs do you use to speedup startup?
    i have come across a startup delayer which i am now using. Startup Delayer Overview | r2 Studios

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    I use a few small hotkey programs I wrote that sit in the tray. I run W10 32 bit using VMWare Player. I also have VMs with W7 both 32 and 64 bit. Compared to W7 W10 loads anything in the tray in glacial mode. I'm talking like 2 minutes just for all the tray icons to show time starting from the first icon.

    Also as I already mentioned, there seems no rhyme or reason which program may be started from the user's StartUp folder, which using the Registry Run key and which have to be started manually. It's even a bit slower after Classic Start Menu is added.
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  6.    17 Oct 2014 #6
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    Host W8.0 x64 Guest W10 x86

    Quote Originally Posted by jamos316 View Post
    what is glacial mode and what hotkey programs do you use to speedup startup?
    i have come across a startup delayer which i am now using. Startup Delayer Overview | r2 Studios
    As I wrote, glacial mode is over 2 minutes between the display of the first tray icon and the last. Other than system icons like network, battery status etc. there is VMWare Player, Everything Search and one program I wrote that moves windows around with hotkeys.

    It's not a matter of importance to speed it up. I just added my observation so the OP would know it's not unique. On a Laptop the VMs load very slowly anyway. They are just for messing around.

    All that being said W10 VM with the same resources allocated is close to an order of magnitude slower loading than W7 32 or 64 bit afa tray icons after the login is complete. The boot time to welcome screen/login is about the same.

    I could not install the W10 x64 as it hangs at 50% device config for some reason. The 32 bit installed cleanly.
    Last edited by MilesAhead; 17 Oct 2014 at 14:04.
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  7.    17 Oct 2014 #7

    Hi James -

    Uncheck everything except OneDrive in msconfig>Services after checking the box to Hide All MS Services.

    Next disable all listings except OneDrive in Task manager Startup Tab.

    Do you have any other HD's in the PC. Unplug them to see if the problem repeats.

    When you installed the OS did you delete all other partitions, wipe the HD, unplug all other HD's or create a Dual Boot?

    Report back on these as there may be more steps indicated, and there are other things to try like Soluto to create a boot map.
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  8.    17 Oct 2014 #8
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    Host W8.0 x64 Guest W10 x86

    One thing you can do generally for services not needed for the OS to function, such as AV or Search, if the service is set to Automatic, change it to Automatic/Delayed Start.

    Also many programs that autostart can be delayed using the free WinPatrol utility.
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  9.    17 Oct 2014 #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jamos316 View Post
    However is there not a program to stop these programs from hogging the system resources when starting up.

    James
    Hi

    Just use CCleaner.

    If you don't already have it installed...

    CCleaner - Download

    In the tools start up tab you can just enable or disable any of the start up items with ease.

    I always go through the list and turn off anything that doesn't need to start.

    If you change your mind you can just re-enable it again.

    For me Windows 10 has the fastest boot times of any OS I've used.

    Less then 15 seconds from the boot menu screen on my dual boot setup.

    And only a few seconds after that before the hard drive stops running and it's done.

    Mike
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  10.    17 Oct 2014 #10
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    Toronto
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    Win 10 Pro x64

    I agree. Disable everything in msconfig. Even onedrive. I think that's what is hogging your pc from startup. Jusy run all those programs manually when you need them.
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