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  1. acmanten's Avatar
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       01 Oct 2015 #1

    System Properties - Protection Settings - Learning more about it . .


    I am trying to learn more about the subject above, and feel sure there are some gurus out there with lots of knowledge about the System Properties in Windows Ten.

    I suspect many users only use this section for making a restore file. I have heard that only about 5% of the HD should be used for restore files... so I suspect that after seeing about 5% used (and all the system appeared to be OK) the user should go to "configue..." and delete the restored data file, then right after that deletion - do another "create..." to make a new "create a restore point" was created.

    Please post any comments or questions about your use of the "System Properties".. Thanks for any comments.
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  2. Brink's Avatar
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       01 Oct 2015 #2

    Hello Cliff,

    You can look under "System Protection" and "System Restore" in the tutorial indexes below for more details about this.

    Was there anything specific you were wanting to know more about?

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorialindex.php

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  3. acmanten's Avatar
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       01 Oct 2015 #3

    Brink

    Thanks and I had read all the tutorial info about subject, and I guess just trying to see if there are more info and how the subject is being used but public., best to all. Cliff M.
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  4.    01 Oct 2015 #4

    By default Windows will use up to 5% of disk space for restore points but this can be changed. Windows will make multiple restore points over time, the older restore points being automatically deleted to make room for newer ones. This is managed by the system and there is normally no need for user intervention.
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  6. acmanten's Avatar
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       02 Oct 2015 #6

    LMiller7 said: View Post
    By default Windows will use up to 5% of disk space for restore points but this can be changed. Windows will make multiple restore points over time, the older restore points being automatically deleted to make room for newer ones. This is managed by the system and there is normally no need for user intervention.
    OK, and thanks. I guess I had not read tat info. thanks, cliff M.
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       02 Oct 2015 #7

    If I recall correctly, System Restore feature was first introduced in Windows ME.
    If you have another mean such as: AOMEI Backupper Or Macrium Reflect Free to create a backup image to an external drive then you shouldn't have to turn on this feature.
    Personally, this is the first thing I turn off after a fresh install
    Reasons:
    1. Unreliable and often corrupted. If you search for "System Restore Points" in 8/10 forums, you might find quite a few posts related to the problem.
    2. Occupy disk space and if the folder is corrupted, disk space can grow to many GB's
    3. System resource hog
    4. Restore Points are also stored in the C: Drive so if your drive is corrupted/crashed/inaccessible then there go the restore points.
    5. Worst of all, this is where sophisticated Hacker can put Virus, malware in the hidden folder "System Volume Information" where the restore points are stored.
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  8. acmanten's Avatar
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       02 Oct 2015 #8

    topgundcp said: View Post
    If I recall correctly, System Restore feature was first introduced in Windows ME.
    If you have another mean such as: AOMEI Backupper Or Macrium Reflect Free to create a backup image to an external drive then you shouldn't have to turn on this feature.
    Personally, this is the first thing I turn off after a fresh install
    Reasons:
    1. Unreliable and often corrupted. If you search for "System Restore Points" in 8/10 forums, you might find quite a few posts related to the problem.
    2. Occupy disk space and if the folder is corrupted, disk space can grow to many GB's
    3. System resource hog
    4. Restore Points are also stored in the C: Drive so if your drive is corrupted/crashed/inaccessible then there go the restore points.
    5. Worst of all, this is where sophisticated Hacker can put Virus, malware in the hidden folder "System Volume Information" where the restore points are stored.
    I started using it as first - but not so much lately. I have been using the Macrium Reflect Free and will be registering it soon. I relly do like Macrium Reflect - easy to use and I have already restored an image made by it... It works fine and is a very fast restore from Image file. best to all Cliff M.
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  9. Word Man's Avatar
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       02 Oct 2015 #9

    Cliff:

    Since you and I earlier worked on your system, recall my advice that you not rely heavily on System Restore Points - exactly for the reasons outlined by topgundcp above.

    Now that you have and are familiar with Macrium Reflect and have external storage available to your desktop, you should give serious consideration to and familiarize yourself with Macrium's scheduled imaging capabilities. In the FREE version you're running, they don't provide incremental imaging but (with V6) they DO now provide differential imaging and scheduling templates for you to use.

    Since you have a desktop, you could keep your 4TB external drive hooked up to it and run scheduled backups, full or differential, on a regular schedule. This form of protection would be far superior to that provided by system restore in most instances, especially in the event of the disk in your Acer failing.

    Also, now that you are using an SSD in your desktop, you need to re-evaluate taking system restore points and the extra disk writes associated with that. That issue is a whole other can of worms which is debated ad infinitum at this point but is ultimately YOUR decision on how to operate the SSD.

    P.S. - Aha! I see you responded while I was writing and, from your response, I see we're pretty much on the same page. If you license Macrium, then you can do incrementals. With incrementals, you could set up a very efficient schedule of imaging and restores would be very quick if needed, with the RDR feature activated.
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       02 Oct 2015 #10

    Word Man said: View Post
    Cliff:

    Since you and I earlier worked on your system, recall my advice that you not rely heavily on System Restore Points - exactly for the reasons outlined by topgundcp above.

    Now that you have and are familiar with Macrium Reflect and have external storage available to your desktop, you should give serious consideration to and familiarize yourself with Macrium's scheduled imaging capabilities. In the FREE version you're running, they don't provide incremental imaging but (with V6) they DO now provide differential imaging and scheduling templates for you to use.

    Since you have a desktop, you could keep your 4TB external drive hooked up to it and run scheduled backups, full or differential, on a regular schedule. This form of protection would be far superior to that provided by system restore in most instances, especially in the event of the disk in your Acer failing.

    Also, now that you are using an SSD in your desktop, you need to re-evaluate taking system restore points and the extra disk writes associated with that. That issue is a whole other can of worms which is debated ad infinitum at this point but is ultimately YOUR decision on how to operate the SSD.

    P.S. - Aha! I see you responded while I was writing and, from your response, I see we're pretty much on the same page. If you license Macrium, then you can do incrementals. With incrementals, you could set up a very efficient schedule of imaging and restores would be very quick if needed, with the RDR feature activated.
    Kenn, Thanks so much..

    I have not been using the restore points lately... I do remember all you were saying about it and also about the 5%.
    I have been using my Macrium Reflect Free to make backup files and it is really easy to so. I really do like it. I am using the 4tb WD "My Book" Backup drive for several different things. Learning about new things everyday.
    Thanks, and I believe all is fine here now again, and flying high. All working good.

    be safe.. cliff
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