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    win10 pro 64 bit
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       #51

    How do I find out which version to use, MBR or GPT?

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    The one I downloaded is version 8.0.7783.
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       #52

    esebm said:
    How do I find out which version to use, MBR or GPT?

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    The one I downloaded is version 8.0.7783.
    "Many ways lead to Rome"
    let's say use the built-in Windows Disk Management.
    there you will see a list of all your disks and partitions.
    in the top part you have the listing of all.
    in the bottom half you have a graphical partition representation for each disk.
    if you right-click in the left-hand column ( that's where your disks are listed 1,2,3etc.)you will get a context menu.
    So if you right-click what is your drive C and then select "properties" a configuration submenu will pop up.
    There you select the "Volumes" tab.
    You will see under "disk information" in the fourth line "Partition style".
    What does it say there? GUID partition table (GPT) or Master Boot Record (MBR)?
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  3. Posts : 6,659
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       #53

    MBR or GPT is the way the drive is initialized.
    If you're cloning a drive to another, the target drive must be cleaned first and the type (MBR or GPT) will be the same.
    If you copy only some partitions the type (MBR or GPT) depends on how it's going to work.
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       #54

    esebm said:
    Guys, here's the disk management screen shot.
    Attachment 411769
    As mentioned in a previous post... in your case when you click on the left column of the graphic representation, in your case disk 0 it will show you on the volumes tab this information in the fourth line" Partition style" if you have a GUID or MBR.
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       #55

    Megahertz said:
    MBR or GPT is the way the drive is initialized.
    If you're cloning a drive to another, the target drive must be cleaned first and the type (MBR or GPT) will be the same.
    If you copy only some partitions the type (MBR or GPT) depends on how it's going to work.
    It seems like you're "competing" with my posts to the OP @esebm as every time I post you seem to immediately post thereafter.
    however I find the advice you give him, an apparent novice, rather confusing with the potential to create chaos.
    A step-by-step clear and concise tried-and-true approach will be much more helpful to esebm.
    to advise to "copy only some partitions" of a boot drive is almost a guarantee for disaster or non-functionality.

    reading your advice above I find very confusing and rather ambiguous. "...depends on how it's going to work".
    since computers are extremely sequential and procedural machines I find the best approach to getting them to work properly to be the same.
    When cloning to the target drive the latter does not have to be cleaned first as cloning will overwrite everything. hence the word "cloning". Typically the software will warn you anyway that any existing data will be overwritten on the target drive.

    What needs to be set on the target drive prior to cloning is, as I had mentioned, the relevant partition type MBR or GPT.
    otherwise although the clone will occur and complete the cloned boot drive will not boot as that record is different.

    This is from personal experience having done many times such and even once back then advised AOMEI of a cloning bug they had in an earlier version when cloning GPT as the software despite the setting wrote it as MBR.

    Anyway, my primary interest is to help this fellow to do a proper and successful cloning and not to confuse him more and more.
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  6. Posts : 6,659
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       #56

    @3Bit, It may seem like I'm "competing" with you but I just posted some seconds after you did.

    Regarding what I mentioned earlier, one way to clone a MBR into a GPT drive is to create a EFI and MSR partitions and then copy (clone) the Windows and recovery partitions from the MBR to the GPT drive. Then use the bcdboot to load the boot manager on the EFI partition
    Last edited by Megahertz; 3 Weeks Ago at 14:55.
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  7. Posts : 430
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       #57

    Megahertz said:
    @3Bit, It may seem like I'm "competing" with you but I just posted some seconds after you did.

    Regarding what I mentioned earlier, one way to clone a MBR into a GPT drive is to create a EFI and MSR partitions and then copy (clone) the Windows and recovery partitions from the MBR to the GPT drive. Then use the bcdboot to load the boot manager on the EFI partition
    Too complicated. my motto is always "keep it simple ...."
    The OP wants to copy/clone his old 500 GB HDD onto a new 1TB SSD.
    All he needs to do is set the new drive GPT and then clone the old to the new ( assuming it is a GPT). Done.
    Most cloning software allows you the option to clone all partitions to equal size which would leave him with more than half of empty unformatted space or he could choose to expand all to the new drive size which will increase proportionately all the 4 or 5 partitions on the boot drive. Thereafter after a successful boot and everything working he can then always resizes with the partition software all to the required minimal required sizes. Some partition software gives you the option to set the individual cloning sizes of the various partitions.

    In fact not too long ago I did a very similar clone from a 500 GB SSD to a 1TB SSD. after successful boot I downsized the expanded FAT32 to 100MB the oversized restore back to 600MB and the recovery to 750MB. moved it together and with gained space further extended the C partition.

    my two cents
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  8. Posts : 206
    win10 pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #58

    "Anyway, my primary interest is to help this fellow to do a proper and successful cloning and not to confuse him more and more."
    Guys, I really appreciate all your help and guidance.
    Here's the way I plan to proceed:
    Back up the critical folders to a stick.
    Doing a "test" clone to an old external HDD; just to see how things work and as an additional backup.
    Install the new 500GB SSD and clone the 1TB HDD to it.
    Disconnect the old HDD and boot with the new SSD.
    If everything works fine I need to erase Win 10 on the old HDD and consolidate into 1 large partition.
    Did I overlook something or does my approach make sense?
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  9. Posts : 6,659
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #59

    esebm said:
    "Anyway, my primary interest is to help this fellow to do a proper and successful cloning and not to confuse him more and more."
    Guys, I really appreciate all your help and guidance.
    Here's the way I plan to proceed:
    Back up the critical folders to a stick.
    Doing a "test" clone to an old external HDD; just to see how things work and as an additional backup.
    Install the new 500GB SSD and clone the 1TB HDD to it.
    Disconnect the old HDD and boot with the new SSD.
    If everything works fine I need to erase Win 10 on the old HDD and consolidate into 1 large partition.
    Did I overlook something or does my approach make sense?
    That's it. Perfect
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