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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
    Covington, Louisiana
    Posts : 536
    Windows 10 Pro 64
       03 Sep 2015 #41

    I have seen CCleaner offer Google Browser and Google Toolbar but you can opt out. So Fredc, what other toolbars are being installed?
    I don't have Chrome and see no other toolbars on my browsers.
    Here is the link to the 3 versions of CCleaner, Standard Installer with the Chrome offer, Portable and Slim.

    http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds

    Jim
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  2.    03 Sep 2015 #42

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    So the maker of the software programs site, in this case Eset, you don't trust to download files off of??? But, Bleeping Computer's site is only site you trust to download software. Ahhhhhh..........ok, I give up.
    No Mike lol, i said download from Eset direct , downloading from Eset is the way to go , i think it's the only place you can download Eset online scanner from .

    I also said i do not download from download sites in general except "Bleeping Computer", download sites to me are Cnet etc...
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  3.    03 Sep 2015 #43

    Word Man said: View Post
    Taking these facts at face value, I see no indication that "bundling" means installs without the user's consent. Normally, I interpret "bundling" as extras that are presented with a checkbox to opt out of with. Usually, IME, PUPs are classified that way to alert users of a potentially unwanted program that they may have unkowingly installed because they blew past the checkboxes without realizing the consequences. I would take it that most of the respondents in this thread would see the checkboxes and opt out if they wish to do so but it wouldn't suprise me if ESET (which is known for agressive identification) flags these just to serve the lowest common denominator who may have let the PUP unknowingly get by them.

    I interpret the ESET forum post to mean download the Slim version if you don't want to deal with the checkboxes when you install from, e.g., a flash drive bag of tricks or send to your grandmother (not to stereotype) to install for her to clean up her system without getting the PUPS.

    Again , there are no check boxes for the full version , you CANNOT OPT OUT , i agree with you about Eset being overly aggressive and other scanners being programmed to not detect them but there are still toolbars being installed whether they effect anything is another debate .

    CCleaner sometimes offers Chrome which is easy to opt out and they had opt out options of the google toolbar in the past , things have changed , it is no longer the way it used to be , toolbars will be installed if you download the exe programs and you cannot opt out .

    Thats why people who are aware of this are complaining , most people ARE NOT aware of this at all .


    I apologize for this CCleaner stuff , this is not even a thread about CCleaner , just realized it . For another time i suppose
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  4. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 7,005
    All kinds
       03 Sep 2015 #44

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Well hate to tell ya this, but I also actually use Chrome, its my 2nd browser. lol
    Oh well, FF is my "poison", can't stand Chrome but waiting to see what will become of Edge. For now it's just too basic which might suite some but it's too constrained for me because of lack of some add-ons. Only future will tell. I might be old fashioned but I like to have menu on top.
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  5. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 615
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 (build 10586)
       03 Sep 2015 #45

    What ESET may be detecting is temporary files which enable the optional program to be downloaded if the check box is selected, not the program itself because the installer silently installed it without your permission.

    Google Chrome would be more than 4 files, and the version offered in installers is not specially crafted to tell antiviruses, "Hey, I'm a P-U-P!" That's for sure.
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  6.    03 Sep 2015 #46

    You said: View Post
    What ESET may be detecting is temporary files which enable the optional program to be downloaded if the check box is selected, not the program itself because the installer silently installed it without your permission.

    Google Chrome would be more than 4 files, and the version offered in installers is not specially crafted to tell antiviruses, "Hey, I'm a P-U-P!" That's for sure.
    Moving on but CCleaner forums and Eset forums will tell the real story if anyones interested .
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  7. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 7,005
    All kinds
       03 Sep 2015 #47

    I use Malwarebytes and AdwCleaner after suspicious downloads.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 92
    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       03 Sep 2015 #48

    I get pop up ads from MS to upgrade Office.
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  9.    03 Sep 2015 #49

    CountMike said: View Post
    I use Malwarebytes and AdwCleaner after suspicious downloads.

    JRT is excellent as well , i use Sandboxie which has kept me clean for years , it automatically deletes everything upon exit unless i decide to save something .
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  10. Joined : Aug 2015
    Maine
    Posts : 21,027
    Windows10Pro 64Bit on 2 DeskTop Computers
       03 Sep 2015 #50

    CountMike said: View Post
    Oh well, FF is my "poison", can't stand Chrome but waiting to see what will become of Edge. For now it's just too basic which might suite some but it's too constrained for me because of lack of some add-ons. Only future will tell. I might be old fashioned but I like to have menu on top.
    I will gladly start using Edge when it will allow apps to be installed, but won't even look at it again till then. That is my biggest complaint about Edge.
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