DIY Desktop Can't = Sleep or Shut Down or Restart

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  1. Posts : 2,276
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       #11

    Findcount said:
    .............i won't lose any data, right ?...........and if the method is not successful, will i lose my data or my Win10 won't work anymore ?
    as you already have a lot of help from good people, i will stay out of this one.

    I only react to your words (i won't lose any data, right ?)
    Always make backup on your personal data as photos and documents etc.

    Even if you wont lose your data if you follow their advice's... your computer or harddrive can die everything from a day after you bought it, to 30years from now. Some times when it break you don't get a warning in advance and it can happen at anytime between a day and 30years.
    So always have backup on important stuff.

    also when doing stuff that should not go wrong, it still can go wrong. and is called "Murphy's law" Murphy's law - Wikipedia
    so when doing stuff.. always backup first. just an friendly advice.

    Good luck.
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       #12

    Findcount said:
    hi, i've read all 14 pages of this subforum but hadn't found anyone with my problem
    I had your SIMILAR problem.

    SLEEP and WAKE issues can be related to faulty RAM, check yours. There are apps online to test your ram, but don't believe everything you see, in my case I didn't get any RAM errors during checks, but the machine worked perfectly when I replaced the ram, and yes, it was the one coming from the fabric.

    It's a bit complex to tell you where to begin, but these issues also relate to bad, wrong, corrupted, or missing graphic drivers, and yes, it also happens when you have the right drivers but aren't fully supported by your OS version. Also, check your hard drives connections, during sleep, hibernation or wake, your computer will need to use RAM and disk.

    You might want to try using your computer with another OS (like Linux), just to see if the same problems happen there.
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       #13

    hroldan said:
    I had your SIMILAR problem.

    SLEEP and WAKE issues can be related to faulty RAM, check yours. There are apps online to test your ram, but don't believe everything you see, in my case I didn't get any RAM errors during checks, but the machine worked perfectly when I replaced the ram, and yes, it was the one coming from the fabric.

    It's a bit complex to tell you where to begin, but these issues also relate to bad, wrong, corrupted, or missing graphic drivers, and yes, it also happens when you have the right drivers but aren't fully supported by your OS version. Also, check your hard drives connections, during sleep, hibernation or wake, your computer will need to use RAM and disk.

    You might want to try using your computer with another OS (like Linux), just to see if the same problems happen there.


    many thanks for the reply.............it turns out that the display driver was the culprit............i updated the driver and everything's fine now

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    Marie SWE said:
    as you already have a lot of help from good people, i will stay out of this one.

    I only react to your words (i won't lose any data, right ?)
    Always make backup on your personal data as photos and documents etc.

    Even if you wont lose your data if you follow their advice's... your computer or harddrive can die everything from a day after you bought it, to 30years from now. Some times when it break you don't get a warning in advance and it can happen at anytime between a day and 30years.
    So always have backup on important stuff.

    also when doing stuff that should not go wrong, it still can go wrong. and is called "Murphy's law" Murphy's law - Wikipedia
    so when doing stuff.. always backup first. just an friendly advice.

    Good luck.

    many thanks...............everything's fine now............

    i'm not IT savvy at all and don't know how to restore backup image or i just make a clone of my boot drive..........
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #14

    Findcount said:
    ... don't know how to restore backup image or i just make a clone of my boot drive..........
    There is guidance in
    my ditty - File backup vs imaging, imaging utilities, backing up drivers [post #3] - TenForums
    including, for the Macrium Reflect system imaging utility, links to TenForumsTutorials on how to make & restore system images

    I only make system images not clones.
    - A system image is a file that contains everything on the disk. You can save several system images on the same external disk. I make a new system image every month before the next Windows update and I keep them until after I've updated to the next Windows version so I can restore the computer to any chosen date in case serious system problems take time to become evident.
    - A clone is copy of the disk on another disk. You can only have one clone on a disk so you'd need to have several external disks to save several clones.


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       #15

    Findcount said:
    many thanks for the reply.............it turns out that the display driver was the culprit............i updated the driver and everything's fine now

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    many thanks...............everything's fine now............

    i'm not IT savvy at all and don't know how to restore backup image or i just make a clone of my boot drive..........
    Nice I'm glad to hear everything is fine again.

    You don't have to be IT savvy to make easy backup.
    The easiest backup is your personal files as photos, document and if you use disk encryption your keys for that. easiest is just to copy/paste your files to a flash-drive or external hard disk.
    so if you have the files in two places you have to become twice as unlucky to lose things from two places..
    and if you have them both on computer, and an flash-drive and an external disk, then you have to be three times unlucky.. and not even "Murphy's law" is that evil. *smiling*
    If you use onedrive you probably have them in two places. on your computer and the cloud.. that is a good first step.. and then get an external hard drive.

    Backing up the OS with cloning the drive is not really necessary.... as it is possible to just install install windows again. But personal files as photos can be hard to take new pictures of, so those is the only real important thing to keep in mind.
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  6. Posts : 13
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       #16

    Marie SWE said:
    Nice I'm glad to hear everything is fine again.

    You don't have to be IT savvy to make easy backup.
    The easiest backup is your personal files as photos, document and if you use disk encryption your keys for that. easiest is just to copy/paste your files to a flash-drive or external hard disk.
    so if you have the files in two places you have to become twice as unlucky to lose things from two places..
    and if you have them both on computer, and an flash-drive and an external disk, then you have to be three times unlucky.. and not even "Murphy's law" is that evil. *smiling*
    If you use onedrive you probably have them in two places. on your computer and the cloud.. that is a good first step.. and then get an external hard drive.

    Backing up the OS with cloning the drive is not really necessary.... as it is possible to just install install windows again. But personal files as photos can be hard to take new pictures of, so those is the only real important thing to keep in mind.

    sad to say..........i don't know how to install the OS too..............

    i do have 3 copies of the OS (as i have 2 clone SSDs)................as for my pics, vids and docs (i have them on 2 extra SSDs and 2 HDDs)
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       #17

    Findcount said:
    sad to say..........i don't know how to install the OS too..............

    i do have 3 copies of the OS (as i have 2 clone SSDs)................as for my pics, vids and docs (i have them on 2 extra SSDs and 2 HDDs)
    Then you are safe.

    as for installing windows, it is pretty much 1 2 3 forward easy.
    first. grab a cup of coffee/tea or what you prefer as lean-back relaxing beverage. That part make you avoid stressing thru the steps and make it easier to take your time reading what is written on the screen.
    Making the installation media is read what it says on the screen and follow the 1,2,3 steps.. and then you have one.
    Booting the computer with the installation media... Read the computer manual how to boot from an USB. 1,2,3 and you know how to
    Installing windows out of the box (and not customizing things with a lot of partitions) is also read what the screen say and follow the instructions 1,2,3 and you have a new install.
    a new install wipes all personal data, and that what backups is for.

    It is easier to install then many think it is. The most important thing is.. Take your time and read what it says.
    If you have another disk that is empty, switch it out in your computer and test doing an install on a rainy day when you is bored.
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       #18

    Findcount said:
    i don't know how to install the OS
    Clean Install - TenForumsTutorials and, in preparation for one, consider Backup and Restore Device Drivers - TenForumsTutorials

    Denis
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  9. Posts : 13
    Win10 Pro
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       #19


    many thanks .............but what if my Win10 Pro actually was provided by the shop that assembled my DIY PC ?

    if i use the unactivated version of Win10.........would the watermark thing be really bothersome ?...........i also read that you can buy a valid Win10 key for under USD20 ?

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    Marie SWE said:
    Then you are safe.

    as for installing windows, it is pretty much 1 2 3 forward easy.
    first. grab a cup of coffee/tea or what you prefer as lean-back relaxing beverage. That part make you avoid stressing thru the steps and make it easier to take your time reading what is written on the screen.
    Making the installation media is read what it says on the screen and follow the 1,2,3 steps.. and then you have one.
    Booting the computer with the installation media... Read the computer manual how to boot from an USB. 1,2,3 and you know how to
    Installing windows out of the box (and not customizing things with a lot of partitions) is also read what the screen say and follow the instructions 1,2,3 and you have a new install.
    a new install wipes all personal data, and that what backups is for.

    It is easier to install then many think it is. The most important thing is.. Take your time and read what it says.
    If you have another disk that is empty, switch it out in your computer and test doing an install on a rainy day when you is bored.

    believe it or not.................i've never even tried to enter the BIOS of a PC...............too terrified to even try !
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #20

    Findcount said:
    what if my Win10 Pro actually was provided by the shop that assembled my DIY PC ?
    If your Windows is, as is normal, activated with a digital licence then you can reinstall without entering any product key - as is explained in that tutorial.
    Check its activation in - Settings, Updates, Activation
    It will activate again automatically when you go online afterwards without any action on your part.


    Findcount said:
    if i use the unactivated version of Win10
    No installation disks are activated of themselves, they do not contain the licence.
    Activation happens after installation to the installed Windows not to its installation disk.


    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 09 May 2023 at 10:12.
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