Why HDD was fast back-in-the-day, but so slow today?

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  1. Posts : 52
    Windows 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #11

    NTN said:
    When hibernating, the PC saves all the active sessions from your RAM memory to the boot drive and shuts down the system. When you turn on the computer, it restores the data from the boot drive to the RAM again as if you never power off your PC.

    In the Command Prompt window, type the following command and hit enter:
    Powercfg.exe /hibernate on

    Will make your old HDD fast as a dodo on steroids.
    I don't see a Hibernate option.
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  2. NTN
    Posts : 972
    W10 19045.2546
       #12

    Massarelda said:
    I don't see a Hibernate option.
    By default, Hibernate mode is not included in the power options in the Windows 10 start menu:

    Here's what you need to do to add it:

    Open Power Options. There are two ways you can do this: either right-click the battery icon in your system tray and click Power Options, or open the Control Panel and click Power Options.
    Click Choose what closing the lid does or Choose what the power buttons do.
    If you don't see Hibernate under Shutdown settings, click the link Change settings that aren't currently available.
    Under Shutdown settings, you should know see Hibernate as an option. Toggle the feature on with the checkbox so that Hibernate appears in the Power menu.

    If Hibernate is not available as one of the shutdown settings, the option is not enabled on your system. In this case, you can use Command Prompt or Registry Editor to enable it.

    How to Enable the Hibernate Option With Command Prompt
    If you prefer changing your system settings by running a command line, you use Command Prompt to enable Hibernate. Launch Command prompt with administrative rights and use the powercfg.exe /hibernate on command line. Exit Command Prompt and reopen Control Panel. The Hibernate option should now be available.

    Note: If you want to deactivate the Hibernate option, go through the above steps and run the powercfg.exe /hibernate off command line.

    How to Enable the Hibernate Option With Windows Registry
    You can also enable the Hibernate option using Registry Editor. Here is how you can do it:

    Press Windows key + R to bring up a Run dialog.
    Type regedit and press Enter.
    In the Registry Editor window, use the left-hand menu to navigate to Computer > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CurrentControlSet > Control > Power.
    In the right pane, locate and open HibernateEnabled.
    Set Base to Hexadecimal and Value data to 1.
    Restart your computer.
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  3. Posts : 42,944
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #13

    Hi, 10 minutes boot time... but to what? Lock screen? Desktop display? Do you mean a cold boot- and what about restart?

    But then you say
    I got boot time down to 3 minutes.
    - reasonable for a HDD.

    Is fast startup enabled? That is the way to get a faster cold boot with a HDD.
    However, be aware that a few systems exhibit problems when it is enabled.

    If you still have long boot times, could you please be more precise?
    Please give the following times, to the lock screen being displayed.
    a. Cold boot to lock screen displayed

    b. Restart - from the point of starting to boot, to lock screen displayed

    Now change the state of fast startup and repeat the above.

    As you say a slow boot occurs after a clean install and then an update, please state
    - which build you are clean installing
    - to which update or updates you are referring, and whether any driver updates occurred.

    This suggests the slowness may not be due to an accumulation of tmp files as per several other threads on slow booting, but try clearing those an compare the times anyway.

    Analaysis
    Boot delays can be analysed using the Window Performance Anayser and Recorder (WPA) - free from MS.

    You can find threads where this advanced tool has been used with screenshots. @zinou is the expert.

    HDD
    You can check the disk with
    - Hard Disk Sentinel (giveaway or full functional trial, portable version available)
    - the more basic Crystal Diskinfo (free).
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  4. Posts : 4,564
    several
       #14

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    register for license, then they send an email click the link in the email and license is emailed back

    O&O Defrag 25 register

    download program in english
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    Download Archive
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  5. Posts : 43
    Windows
       #15

    Massarelda said:
    But after getting Windows Updates, it would boot slow.
    Occasionally the program "Microsoft Teams" is installed through Windows Update, it is quite a resource intensive program. If you do not use Teams, be sure to disable it from starting up automatically when you turn your laptop on. Here is a guide on how to do that:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...EBD=Windows_10

    If you do not see Teams in the list, it is most likely not installed.
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  6. Posts : 52
    Windows 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Hi,
    My 3-min boot time is from Restart. I start the clock when I see the big Lenovo graphics. At t=2-min, the lock-screen comes up...and I quickly log-in and then hit Win-X and T to start Task-manager. At t=2.5-min, Task-manager opens and shows the Harddrive performance pegged at 100%. At t=3.0-min, Task-manager shows Harddrive performance dropping steeply from 100% to 0%. So, that's how I got my "3-min boot time."

    So essentially, from lock-screen (t=2-min) to t=3-minutes, the computer is very very sluggish.

    I got this 3-min timing, only after doing lots and lots of tweeking and re-installing Windows.

    When I first got this laptop, it was full of junk software, and it took forever to boot and reboot (10-minutes). So, the first thing I did was re-install Windows from ISO.

    The AMD Radeon discrete graphics would cause lock up the system. So I ended up disabling the discrete graphics in the BIOS.

    Yes, I have fast-startup enabled. If I do the above from cold start, then it is a little faster, maybe by 10 seconds.

    The previous owner is a close relative. So, she told me when the computer was new, it would boot "very fast."

    The only HDD computer I owned was running Windows XP (many many years ago). And I don't recall having to wait this long (3 minutes) to use it.

    dalchina said:
    Hi, 10 minutes boot time... but to what? Lock screen? Desktop display? Do you mean a cold boot- and what about restart?

    But then you say

    - reasonable for a HDD.

    Is fast startup enabled? That is the way to get a faster cold boot with a HDD.
    However, be aware that a few systems exhibit problems when it is enabled.

    If you still have long boot times, could you please be more precise?
    Please give the following times, to the lock screen being displayed.
    a. Cold boot to lock screen displayed

    b. Restart - from the point of starting to boot, to lock screen displayed

    Now change the state of fast startup and repeat the above.
    Last edited by Massarelda; 19 Feb 2023 at 07:10.
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  7. Posts : 15,480
    Windows10
       #17

    OK - I am going to say it, as nobody else has. HDDs are obsolescent technology.

    Do yourself a huge favour and install an SSD (<£50 if you can afford it of course).

    Running an i7 with an HDD is just crippling performance.
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  8. Posts : 52
    Windows 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #18

    cereberus said:
    OK - I am going to say it, as nobody else has. HDDs are obsolescent technology.

    Do yourself a huge favour and install an SSD (<£50 if you can afford it of course).

    Running an i7 with an HDD is just crippling performance.
    I just don't get why HDD was fine with Windows 10 just a few years ago but now it is slow.

    Alot of computers must have been shipped with HDD and Windows 10, and they booted up fast when new.
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  9. Posts : 16,927
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #19

    Massarelda said:
    I just don't get why HDD was fine with Windows 10 just a few years ago but now it is slow.
    Try3 said:
    And you should benefit from running CleanMgr first - Disk Cleanup - TenForumsTutorials
    How often are you running Disk clean?

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 42,944
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #20

    My 3-min boot time is from Restart. I start the clock when I see the big Lenovo graphics. At t=2-min, the lock-screen comes up...and I quickly log-in and then hit Win-X and T to start Task-manager. At t=2.5-min, Task-manager opens and shows the Harddrive performance pegged at 100%. At t=3.0-min, Task-manager shows Harddrive performance dropping steeply from 100% to 0%. So, that's how I got my "3-min boot time."
    That time's pretty good for a HDD.
    A huge amount of tweaking shouldn't be necessary with a PC where the owner has installed things sensibly- but I can quite understand the need to start afresh.


    The only HDD computer I owned was running Windows XP (many many years ago). And I don't recall having to wait this long (3 minutes) to use it.
    XP is much, much smaller than Win 10. As HDD performance has not increased in proportion to the amount that is nowloaded you might expect a comparative delay.

    Depending on what's installed, the time from login to processing and disk usage to settle to a minimum can exceed the time from boot to lock screen.

    Considering a SSD
    Example- this 8-9 year-old laptop boots to lock screen in about 8-9s.

    However loading the startups I use after logging in takes considerably longer.
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