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  1.    29 Aug 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Hibernate(tutorial step 8 the Note) needs to be turned on for Fast Boot to function, also you have to shutdown from the start menu and not WinX(windows icon right click menu).
    Thanks for posting that Cliff - I didn't know hibernate needed to be turned on for Fast Boot to function. Appreciate the tip.
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  2.    29 Aug 2015 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBurns View Post
    Thanks for posting that Cliff - I didn't know hibernate needed to be turned on for Fast Boot to function. Appreciate the tip.
    You're welcome John. I didn't either on Windows 8.1 until Shawn pointed me in the right direction/tutorial.
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  3.    29 Aug 2015 #23
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    This was very helpful jd, so thank you kindly for that. I don't know how, but a warm reboot is now one minute and 40 seconds and a cold hard start is less than a minute. This is a huge improvemnt over what it was before updating the drivers.

    One last thing. Can I delete the XPS-8700 tool package that thedriver updater left on my desktop? I assume that if I need to use this again it will generate a new one anyway.

    Thanks again.

    Also, if I may say so, I am really liking this forum as it appears to filled with very mature people who aren't attacking everyone in the process. I think it's a great place to learn so thank you all for that also.

    Matchlock




    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Definitely one place to start after an upgrade make sure get most important driver updates, as system shows it is good for this upgrade. Give it some more time to complete all updates, check startup items in Task manager Startup tab may also have to many running services will slow down startup, choose proper operating system 64 bit or 32bit when selecting here........ http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/...s-8700/drivers
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  4.    29 Aug 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    For @jds63 and @Gary,

    As usual it's a personal choice to use or not(I love it with my SSD). Here is some info on it, I highlighted some answers to your doubts, but, like I said it's a matter of choice. My SSD can do a few Petabytes before failing(the question of data integrity before it gets there, is another animal though):

    Source
    Thanks Cliff, i understand personal choice just felt was not going to solve thread starters issue. Although a benefit for some who do actually use hibernation. True i have heard issues with it for some as Gary mentioned too.
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  5.    29 Aug 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchlock View Post
    This was very helpful jd, so thank you kindly for that. I don't know how, but a warm reboot is now one minute and 40 seconds and a cold hard start is less than a minute. This is a huge improvemnt over what it was before updating the drivers.

    One last thing. Can I delete the XPS-8700 tool package that thedriver updater left on my desktop? I assume that if I need to use this again it will generate a new one anyway.

    Thanks again.

    Also, if I may say so, I am really liking this forum as it appears to filled with very mature people who aren't attacking everyone in the process. I think it's a great place to learn so thank you all for that also.

    Matchlock
    Your Welcome ! Did you also look at amount of startup items in Task Manager and see what can be disabled ?

    XPS-8700 Tool package are you talking about this ?

    Dell Update Application Dell Update Application View details
    Application_1GN7H_WN32_1.7.1007.0_A00.EXE | Update Package for Microsoft® Windows® (14 MB)
    Application|
    Release date 28 Jul 2015
    |Last Updated 27 Aug 2015
    | Optional
    Version 1.7.1007.0,A00

    Looks to me like most other update utilities given by manufacturer's making it easier for customers to get updates for system.
    Guess this is up to you if feel need to keep it. Not sure why can not be uninstalled if do not want it. Does it run in notification area ?
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  6.    29 Aug 2015 #26
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    I don't use hibernation, just for the record, I use fast boot, that needs hibernation. If I ever get problem using it, like most things that ruin my user experience--It's turned off or gone. But for a spinner it is invaluable, to speeding boot times, just like a good defrag.
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  7.    29 Aug 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    I don't use hibernation, just for the record, I use fast boot, that needs hibernation. If I ever get problem using it, like most things that ruin my user experience--It's turned off or gone. But for a spinner it is invaluable, to speeding boot times, just like a good defrag.
    Up to you, as said users choice. As your stating have to enable one to get the other benefit, understood that part and knew it from 8.1. Know it easily disabled. Hey, i am in no rush to make my PC start faster, what's a few more seconds.
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  8.    29 Aug 2015 #28
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    Ok jd let's see if we can help this guy, although filling in his system specs a bit more would help.

    1. The install seemed to go just fine but when it was finished I now have a computer that will boot from a shut down in approximately 45 to 50 seconds

    2. but when do a warm boot, or restart as I guess they're called these days, it takes over two and a half minutes to completely boot into the desktop.

    3. I also syill get the "Welcome" screen even though I don't have to sign in with a password after following some tweak suggestions found on the Internet.
    @Matchlock
    1. Besides needing to get your correct Win10 drivers from Dell, how many internal disks do you have? SSD or HDD? Other peripherals?(BIOS needs to check what you have, more disks, external disks, DVD/Blu Ray, keyboard, mouse...etc) then get the boot commands/order from CMOS Do you have a lot of startup programs(how many not system icons show up in system tray)? Are they all "needed" right after you start up? can you turn some offf in task manager?

    2. A restart will always need longer, Windows needs to shut active software down before it can power down, then reboot.

    3.Even with my SSD on my other PC(old Asus laptop), the welcome screen shows for a split second. If you have a HDD wich is much slower you will see it longer, so nothing to worry about.

    Have you run Disk cleanup and Optimize drives?
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  9.    29 Aug 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Ok jd let's see if we can help this guy, although filling in his system specs a bit more would help.

    @Matchlock
    1. Besides needing to get your correct Win10 drivers from Dell, how many internal disks do you have? SSD or HDD? Other peripherals?(BIOS needs to check what you have, more disks, external disks, DVD/Blu Ray, keyboard, mouse...etc) then get the boot commands/order from CMOS Do you have a lot of startup programs(how many not system icons show up in system tray)? Are they all "needed" right after you start up? can you turn some offf in task manager?

    2. A restart will always need longer, Windows needs to shut active software down before it can power down, then reboot.

    3.Even with my SSD on my other PC(old Asus laptop), the welcome screen shows for a split second. If you have a HDD wich is much slower you will see it longer, so nothing to worry about.

    Have you run Disk cleanup and Optimize drives?
    There you go, this i know is main reason you come here and also to learn more.

    I am assuming from the first post here since this PC was bought about month ago, Dell XPS-8700, most likely did not upgrade components.I linked the Dell drivers page and thread starter told us he checked and updated the appropriate drivers and was then questioning about a Dell App to remove.

    I did state which is most common issue for slow boot or restart is too many running processes and told the thread starter to first check the Task manger in Startup tab, but he has not reply about that, read the last post of his.

    Just could be that since it was just upgraded it either needs some optimization, cleanup and finishing Windows updates.
    Think we all might know clean install will run better.
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  10.    30 Aug 2015 #30
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    Slow Boot


    Hi;

    Sorry for the delay. Still having a little trouble navigating this forum. I'm nearly 70 and techie things don't stick to my brain like they used to do.

    I have a 2 Tbyte drive that came with the machine and another 500 gig Drive d: with all my software and personal information on it. I always install software to C: and use D: for information only such as photos, letters, and everything else not directly related to running the machine. As I said, all software is installed on C: only. I've always done things that way so when I have a system failure I always have my data safe on drive d: It's an old drive (about four years old now) and is being replaced real soon.

    I use an external 1 Tbyte "Passport" Drive for backups

    OK, as for information you spoke about. I have installed all up to date drivers from the Dell site that someone on this forum was so kind to provide.

    For the most part I use a Bamboo Graphics Tablet and pen instead of a mouse.

    My system has a Blu Ray DVD Player/Burner

    I use a Logitech K-350 Wireless Keyboard without the added software installed. It works just fine for me that way.

    I've turned off may startup items using CCleaner that I don't need.

    Here's a couple of snips of my bottom line.
    Right SideLeft Side
    No, I have not run Disk Cleanup or Optimize Files but I will now, thank you.

    Bud






    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Ok jd let's see if we can help this guy, although filling in his system specs a bit more would help.

    @Matchlock
    1. Besides needing to get your correct Win10 drivers from Dell, how many internal disks do you have? SSD or HDD? Other peripherals?(BIOS needs to check what you have, more disks, external disks, DVD/Blu Ray, keyboard, mouse...etc) then get the boot commands/order from CMOS Do you have a lot of startup programs(how many not system icons show up in system tray)? Are they all "needed" right after you start up? can you turn some offf in task manager?

    2. A restart will always need longer, Windows needs to shut active software down before it can power down, then reboot.

    3.Even with my SSD on my other PC(old Asus laptop), the welcome screen shows for a split second. If you have a HDD wich is much slower you will see it longer, so nothing to worry about.

    Have you run Disk cleanup and Optimize drives?
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