Windows 11 long boot times


  1. Posts : 3
    Windows 11
       #1

    Windows 11 long boot times


    Hi There,

    I have had these weird long BOOT times even though I have had some good SSDs have had it Since I was on Windows 10 and have been carried over to Windows 11 when the update came in this computer is a Workstation that I use for Work and gaming and has plenty of HDDs so I am not sure if that could affect boot times but I have had this issue across multiple SSDs.

    I had it with my 500GB Crucial Sata SSD so I upgraded to a PCI-E Intel 750 400GB boot-up times remained the same I have upgraded again to a Samsung 980Pro NVME but my boot times have actually increased I always used Acronis True Image that came free with my Crucial Drive to clone my OS to a new drive fast boot works well when it works but cold boot and restarts take several minutes which doesn't make sense, especially with this new drive.

    my Specs are Ryzen 5800X, 64GB DDR4 3200 9HDDs and 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, and 1TB Kingston A2000.

    I can't afford to do a clean install as it would take too much time to re-install all my apps and settings.

    I have ran a boot trace and I have tried to look at it with Windows Performance Analyzer but I don't have any idea what I need to look and looking at guides online doesn't help either.

    if anyone can help please do so.

    here is my ETL file it is large at 1.5Gb compressed and 40GB after extraction due to my large RAM size.

    DESKTOP-O6EL3SB.02-06-2022.18-28-56.Boot_1.7z - Google Drive
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  2. Posts : 920
    Windows 10 Pro
       #2

    Your issue is not the speed of the drives (read/write), the issue is probably that the POST from a cold boot or restart has to wait for each of the 9 HDDs to spin up, perform their self test (according to firmware) and report that they are ready, that will occur at the speed of the slowest drive (as in the speed it can report at), you can test this by simply disconnecting the HDDs.
    Another thing to look for is any items in the BIOS (UEFI) settings such as boot from network or search for CD/DVD and any other items that are tested for but not actually in use, disable them.
    External devices can also slow the boot process, USB drives, hubs, etc.
    Check device manager for any problem devices.
    After hardware look at software as the potential cause, disable any 3rd party software that starts with Windows, so any RGB lighting apps, anti virus/ malware apps, mouse/ keyboard apps, monitoring apps and any customisation software, etc.
    Use Autoruns from Sysinternals to temporarily disable any non Windows drivers, services and scheduled tasks (as long as they are not boot critical).
    Try a safe mode boot.
    Try creating a new user account to see if maybe there is an issue with the existing account, it is possible that there may be some corruption in the User account.
    When troubleshooting try things one at a time to help identify the cause.
    As for your boot trace try setting some filters so that the resulting file is not so large, not many people are willing to download, or wade through, a 1.5Gb ETL file.
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  3. Posts : 3
    Windows 11
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Pejole2165 said:
    Your issue is not the speed of the drives (read/write), the issue is probably that the POST from a cold boot or restart has to wait for each of the 9 HDDs to spin up, perform their self test (according to firmware) and report that they are ready, that will occur at the speed of the slowest drive (as in the speed it can report at), you can test this by simply disconnecting the HDDs.
    Another thing to look for is any items in the BIOS (UEFI) settings such as boot from network or search for CD/DVD and any other items that are tested for but not actually in use, disable them.
    External devices can also slow the boot process, USB drives, hubs, etc.
    Check device manager for any problem devices.
    After hardware look at software as the potential cause, disable any 3rd party software that starts with Windows, so any RGB lighting apps, anti virus/ malware apps, mouse/ keyboard apps, monitoring apps and any customisation software, etc.
    Use Autoruns from Sysinternals to temporarily disable any non Windows drivers, services and scheduled tasks (as long as they are not boot critical).
    Try a safe mode boot.
    Try creating a new user account to see if maybe there is an issue with the existing account, it is possible that there may be some corruption in the User account.
    When troubleshooting try things one at a time to help identify the cause.
    As for your boot trace try setting some filters so that the resulting file is not so large, not many people are willing to download, or wade through, a 1.5Gb ETL file.
    Thanks, boot-up speed is the same even on Safe mode already tried removing the Drives didn't change a thing.
    Already tried to do a clean boot but still no changes, the system stays at the Windows LOGO and the spinning circle for a very long time spinning circle spins up to 20 times or more.
    let me know what settings I need to choose for the Windows performance recorder in order to get the file size down as much as possible.
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  4. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #4

    Hello anito9999 and welcome to TF ,

    Test with hibernation disabled if it's enabled "powercfg /h off". Shut down the PC after you change the setting to test.
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  5. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #5

    Also check all your drives' health with Crystal Disk Info.
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  6. Posts : 3
    Windows 11
    Thread Starter
       #6

    steve108 said:
    Hello anito9999 and welcome to TF ,

    Test with hibernation disabled if it's enabled "powercfg /h off". Shut down the PC after you change the setting to test.
    Thanks just disabled it then rebooted it was slightly faster but nowhere near what I used to get on Windows 10 1607 first noticed long boot times after updating to 1703 and it has only gotten worst since then just kept ignoring it as I thought I only needed a better SSD I honestly spent the extra money to get a Gen4 SSD just to get my boot times under control was not expecting a no improvement as a result.

    - - - Updated - - -

    steve108 said:
    Also check all your drives' health with Crystal Disk Info.
    all my drives shows GOOD as status in Crystal Disk info.
    Windows 11 long boot times-capture.jpg
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  7. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #7

    Thanks for the update. "powercfg /h on" if you want to enable hibernation again.

    You could make a full image backup of your boot drive to one of your HDDs using (make a Macrium Reflect Rescue USB too):
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect

    Then you can do a clean install just to see if boot time is affected.

    After that you can boot from MR Rescue USB and make another image backup of your clean install if you want, then restore your original boot drive image from HDD back to boot drive.

    Think about this if nothing else resolves the issue and you want to cross clean install attempt off your list
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  8. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #8

    I just noticed this is a Windows 11 install.

    Please create an account on sister site Windows 11 Forum and post there for Windows 11 issues and support. This forum is for W10.

    Hope you understand.
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  9. Posts : 781
    Windows 10
       #9

    @anito9999,

    Please check your temp folder. This often causes crazily slow boot times on even the fastest of drives.

    + R ———- Open the RUN panel
    %temp% then OK ———- Opens Temp folder

    Then delete all the possible files in here.

    If this doesn’t work, please see below link how to do in place upgrade which keeps all apps and data.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade

    Also if this doesn’t help, get help from the Eleven Forum site

    -James
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