Desktop Win10 boots fast, laptop takes forever

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  1. Posts : 22
    windows 10
       #1

    Desktop Win10 boots fast, laptop takes forever


    I have an i7 (4th generation) desktop PC that boots very fast and a i5 (8th generation) laptop that takes forever to boot. Both run Win10.

    In particular the laptop HD churns seemingly forever before finally calming down allowing me to do my regular work. Another peculiarity is a blank command line window opens for a minute or so and then closes. This doesn't happen on the desktop.

    I have limited Windows update to once a month, thinking that constant updates might be slowing the laptop but that has had little if any effect. I have disabled all startup processes.
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  2. Posts : 2,123
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
       #2

    Proprietary laptops are renown for being (over)bloated with brand-name system managing software. In a lot of cases, disabling processes doesn't prevent still some software from loading up at boot.

    Depending on the brand (but still pretty generally) most of the proprietary software is useless - monitors/manages stuff that Win 10 already does and/or isn't necessary anyway. In most cases, it serves no purpose other than to slow down the machine.

    Also, any comparison of desktop -vs- laptop needs to be identified by comparison
    - CPU ?
    - RAM ?
    - Storage - NVme/SSD/HDD ?
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  3. Posts : 22
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    That might be it, the laptop is an HP and I have struggled to stop all the notifications from HP support. The desktop is a refurbished Dell that came with a clean installation of Win10.

    I guess I will have to live with the delay.
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  4. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    i5 (8th generation) laptop that takes forever
    History (almost never given by posters):
    - when did it last boot fast?
    - what build of Win 10 was then running?
    - was there any hardware or other change that preceded the problem?

    How long is 'forever'? Specifically, how long does it take for a cold boot to lock screen?

    What technology is the system disk? SSD? HDD?

    Please test the transfer rate of your disk. (How fast does task manager, Performance tab and file explorer dialogue report the transfer as being when you copy a large file (a couple Gb. say) from desktop to desktop?

    See e.g. this dialogue when copying:
    Desktop Win10 boots fast, laptop takes forever-1.jpg

    Typically people reporting this see 100% or very high disk usage, and transfer rate being limited to under 10MB/s.

    I think, from your description, this is NOT just a slow boot problem, as it seems you report slowness after logging in too, thus wouldn't recommend, at present, the use of MS's WPA technically challenging free graphical analysis tool.

    (Expect, say, 2mins plus for HDD, 9-12s for SSD cold boot to lock screen).
    Last edited by dalchina; 18 Sep 2021 at 00:43.
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  5. Posts : 7,871
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #5

    Does the laptop have a SSD? If not installing one will make a huge difference. You can use Autoruns to disable most of the HP bloatware.
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  6. Posts : 22
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Steve C said:
    Does the laptop have a SSD? If not installing one will make a huge difference. You can use Autoruns to disable most of the HP bloatware.
    Thanks to all for the suggestions.

    Autoruns...are they something like the autoexec.bat of DOS days?

    The laptop booted fast when I first purchased it even though the HP items had not been disabled. It has a HD, not an SSD. It takes several minutes to become usable and I mean by that any program I try to run will go at a snail's pace. The HD busy LED is on constantly during this long waiting period. I know when I can expect normal operation because the HD LED goes to a brief heartbeat.

    The appearance of the blank command line window that remains present for a minute or so doesn't seem right to me.
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  7. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Await your response to my #4. Check your transfer rate.
    That's your main issue and will affect basic performance.

    The trivial issue I therefore didn't comment on is the blank command window, probably related to a startup. There have been a few other such reports. Could be related to a bat file not configured to execute silently.

    To identify this:
    a. Perform a clean boot. (Google or see tutorial if unsure how). does it still occur?
    b. If it does, you can disable more startups using the free program from MS, Autoruns. (Just search for it).

    Startups are listed in sections. Do not disable (hide for safety) MS startups.
    Checkboxes disable startups.
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  8. Posts : 22
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Ok, I've got Autoruns going. I should be able to copy any large file from one place to another and get the transfer rate for the HD, no?

    I'm not clear what you mean by a desktop to desktop transfer...
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  9. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #9

    Launch task manager, open at Performance tab, C:
    a. Get a large file e.g. a Win 10 iso file and put it on your desktop.
    b. Copy that file to your desktop.
    c. Take screenshot of task manager + file explorer transfer dialogue (green progress bar).

    You can terminate the transfer before it completes so nothing is actually copied.
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  10. Posts : 896
    windows 10
       #10

    As you've a HDD, you need first to check the disk health before going further into troubleshooting;

    check this post for more details.

    Also the command line that pops up, can be an auto-start program or a script. Make sure to disable auto-startup feature for non essetial programs and services
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