Occasional spikes in HD activity and slowdowns since W10 upgrade?

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  1. Posts : 8
    W10 Home 64-bit 21H1 19043.1165
       #1

    Occasional spikes in HD activity and slowdowns since W10 upgrade?


    Upgraded from W7 to W10 ( 19043.1165 ). Since then, in tasks as simple as editing plain text, everything will freeze for a few seconds.
    I read some tip sheets, removed Slack, and have been watching Task Manager. Plenty of unused space on the HD. The only consistent hog is Chrome taking 1GB.
    Installed WinDirStat but nothing there seems to say Here is the problem...
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  2. Posts : 1,612
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #2

    1. The cause MAYBE Avast
    I suggest you try as a first step uninstalling it and use the included Windows Security centre

    2. Upgrades from 7 to 10 sometimes produce slow performance problems
    Now you have upgraded if Windows 10 reports it is activated then if nothing else solves the problem a clean install often does, however you will of course need to consider which apps you have if any that you need to keep. Your personal data can of course be copied to an external before you make the clean install and then copied back.

    You are not at that stage yet, but it may come to this. Windows 7 was more than likely installed MBR and the upgrade will also be MBR - if the Dell XPS has UEFI firmware a clean install in UEFI and GPT is recommended against the MBR

    3. On the upgrade the old 7 installation is saved for 30 days to allow you to return if necessary. The deletion of that old installation sometimes solves the sow performance. This is done on disk cleanup

    4. If you have only just made the upgrade you MAY find that various updates may solve the problem.
    Have you checked the Dell site for the upgrades - drivers - especially chipset for 10 if the system is new enough to offer those. Of course LAN, wireless, audio and BIOS are also worth checking on.

    5. I should not bother too much about Chrome, as of course each tab opens a separate process on Chrome.

    6. Finally for this post I would be going with AVAST at this early stage as the likely cause
    Third party AV appas were OK on 7 but are often problem causations on 10
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  3. Posts : 1,612
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #3

    Re my post above if I have the correct Dell
    10 is not supported by Dell on that computer
    https://www.dell.com/support/home/en...-l702x/drivers
    so you will have to search individually for your drivers or rely on windows/microsoft updates.
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  4. Posts : 8
    W10 Home 64-bit 21H1 19043.1165
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Wow quite a lot of good info there, including the "not supported" bit.

    For some reason, I thought most of the boots on the ground was handled by the MS Windows installer. It's the first time I've ever had hardware not be OK for an OS upgrade.

    I'll also fold in all the info from your first reply. And thank you so much!
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  5. Posts : 1,612
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #5

    The not supported = simply means Dell do not support it for 10
    It is uneconomic for them to provide drivers for 10 on that model

    It does not mean you will not find the drivers OR that as I said Windows will not provide them, but of course in the latter case they are - a little bit of a make do - driver.
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  6. Posts : 6,319
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
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    Open device manager. Is there any yellow alerts of missing drivers?

    Make a drive image and save it on another drive in case you decide to go back to win 7 after the 30 days.
    Personally I still think Win 7 is a better and safer OS.
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  7. Posts : 1,612
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #7

    Personally I still think Win 7 is a better and safer OS
    Better - maybe
    Safer - I cannot agree
    How can an OS without any security updates - at least in the normal way of using 7 be safer than 10.

    From Microsoft
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind...rity%20updates.
    As of 14 January 2020, your computer running Windows 7 will still function but Microsoft will no longer provide the following:

    Technical support for any issues
    Software updates
    Security updates or fixes

    While you could continue to use your PC running Windows 7, without continued software and security updates, it will be at greater risk for viruses and malware. Going forward, the best way for you to stay secure is on Windows 10. And the best way to experience Windows 10 is on a new PC. While it is possible to install Windows 10 on your older device, it is not recommended.
    I am not suggesting that 7 cannot be run with reasonable safety by those who know what they are doing, but IMHO to suggest that 7 is safer than 10 on that short statement, could be very misleading.
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  8. Posts : 6,319
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #8

    Macboatmaster said:
    Better - maybe
    Safer - I cannot agree
    How can an OS without any security updates - at least in the normal way of using 7 be safer than 10.

    From Microsoft
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind...rity%20updates.


    I am not suggesting that 7 cannot be run with reasonable safety by those who know what they are doing, but IMHO to suggest that 7 is safer than 10 on that short statement, could be very misleading.
    What is safe computing?
    - Data has a backup (depends on user)
    - Computer is shielded (depends on a good firewall and Antivirus)
    - Computer is reliable (you start and it runs)
    - No telemetry
    - No Privacy violation

    I never seen in SevenForums someone complaining that after a update he can't boot or lost his data or computer is slow etc etc.
    I've seen here many people that had a un boot able computer after an update (it happened to me). Have seen many that had to do a reinstall, fix boot files etc, etc.
    And there is the telemetry and privacy violation.

    That is why I say that Win 7 is safer to use than Win 10.
    Regarding the Win 7 updates, M$ still provide them for those who pay for them or you can disable WU and use Simplix to be updated without the telemetry and other garbage.
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  9. Posts : 1,612
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #9

    Please accept my apologies I read your post as safer to use in respect of the security risk
    Personally I still think Win 7 is a better and safer OS.
    as against - more reliable
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  10. Posts : 8
    W10 Home 64-bit 21H1 19043.1165
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Megahertz said:
    Open device manager. Is there any yellow alerts of missing drivers?
    No missing drivers. Just one "Other devices > Unknown device"

    - - - Updated - - -

    Macboatmaster said:
    The not supported = simply means Dell do not support it for 10
    It is uneconomic for them to provide drivers for 10 on that model
    For a moment there, I wondered if 'not supported' might mean that my drive is inadequate for 10, and should perhaps be an SSD.
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