Upgraded Win7 to Win10 - now very slow boot-up and poor performance

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  1. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #21

    RJARRRPCGP said:
    Spinner=Defrag time!
    My PC is 3% Fragmented and it stills boots up longer.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Run these batch files:
    Tuneup_plus_log.bat Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.
    DiskParInfo.bat - Click here to go to the BSOD batch repository to download and run this batch file.

    Post here the results
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  2. Posts : 624
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64
       #22

    jbcarreon123 said:
    My PC is 3% Fragmented and it stills boots up longer.
    That's a major amount of fragments! Especially drives of today!
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  3. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #23

    RJARRRPCGP said:
    That's a major amount of fragments! Especially drives of today!
    Defrag says it is not required to defrag.
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  4. Posts : 91
    Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux Mint
    Thread Starter
       #24

    Just trying to keep up with the discussion which I started. It seems that others reckon the slowness (boot up and operation) I noticed may be par for the course with Win 10 when on a system with a spinning hard disk drive. If so, that's a disappointing regression from Win7 when I had hoped for progress....

    Nevertheless, I checked the defrag status. My HDD is not even 1% fragmented, and needs no cleaning up or defragging.

    As for batch files - Windows Defender issues stern warnings about them, and I don't like running them without a very full, precise and clear explanation of what they do, what they might be seeking, and why it might be helpful to do so.
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  5. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #25

    See Post #21
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  6. Posts : 6,319
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #26

    There are many things that may cause Win 10 to boot and run slower than win 10.
    In my opinion, a downgrade from win 7 to win 10 (install over) is never a good solution.
    The best you can do is to do a Clean Install Windows 10

    You can replace the ODD (CD/ DVD drive) with a with a drive caddy and install a small (120G SSD) for windows and Linux and use the HDD for data only.
    There are two types of laptops ODDs: 9.5mm or 12.7mm high.
    You must buy a caddy of the same high .
    2nd HDD Caddy | Newegg.com
    The Sony Vaio I'm using right now has a 120G SSD and a 1T HDD installed on a 12.7mm Caddy.
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  7. Posts : 91
    Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux Mint
    Thread Starter
       #27

    Megahertz said:
    There are many things that may cause Win 10 to boot and run slower than win 10.
    In my opinion, a downgrade from win 7 to win 10 (install over) is never a good solution.
    The best you can do is to do a Clean Install Windows 10
    Yes, @Megahertz, I understand and agree. A clean install has always been at the back of my mind as an option. I read all Brink's tutorials very carefully before I started!

    I decided to try the in-place upgrade route partly because I wanted to keep apps and settings, and partly because - as this is a dual boot laptop with Linux Mint, managed using EasyBCD - I did not want to run the risk of messing that up. I tend these days to use Linux Mint more of the time because (surprise surprise) it is a lot less hassle than Windows! I keep Windows on my system because there are still a couple of programs I use (eg for graphics) which have no comparable equivalent in Linux. But with Win7 at End-of-Life it seemed sensible to move to Win10.

    You can replace the ODD (CD/ DVD drive) with a drive caddy and install a small (120G SSD) for windows and Linux and use the HDD for data only.
    Yes, I've thought of variations on those lines, and in fact I have another laptop which has Win10 on the main internal 256 GB SSD and Mint on a second internal mSATA 256 GB SSD.

    In the case of this Samsung laptop, which has a 750 GB HDD, I still use the CD/DVD bay for burning disks, so am hesitant about swapping it out for another storage drive. At present the main HDD is partitioned into Win10, Mint, and a separate Data partition, and with 750 GB there's space for that. My issue is ultimately not storage-space: it's about getting Win10 to work smoothly!
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  8. Posts : 624
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64
       #28

    jbcarreon123 said:
    Defrag says it is not required to defrag.
    Ignore that and tell it to defrag, as the defrag utility is cheating by saying that it don't need to be defragged. That message is BS!
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  9. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #29

    br1anstorm said:
    Yes, @Megahertz, I understand and agree. A clean install has always been at the back of my mind as an option. I read all Brink's tutorials very carefully before I started!

    I decided to try the in-place upgrade route partly because I wanted to keep apps and settings, and partly because - as this is a dual boot laptop with Linux Mint, managed using EasyBCD - I did not want to run the risk of messing that up. I tend these days to use Linux Mint more of the time because (surprise surprise) it is a lot less hassle than Windows! I keep Windows on my system because there are still a couple of programs I use (eg for graphics) which have no comparable equivalent in Linux. But with Win7 at End-of-Life it seemed sensible to move to Win10.



    Yes, I've thought of variations on those lines, and in fact I have another laptop which has Win10 on the main internal 256 GB SSD and Mint on a second internal mSATA 256 GB SSD.

    In the case of this Samsung laptop, which has a 750 GB HDD, I still use the CD/DVD bay for burning disks, so am hesitant about swapping it out for another storage drive. At present the main HDD is partitioned into Win10, Mint, and a separate Data partition, and with 750 GB there's space for that. My issue is ultimately not storage-space: it's about getting Win10 to work smoothly!
    There was an advantage of using an HDD caddy for secondary storage:
    1. is More storage
    2. you can put the Linux Mint in the another storage, so you can't see this: error, no such partition, Entering rescue mode .. grub rescue> if you update your Windows 10 system.
    3. backup
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  10. Posts : 423
    Windows 10
       #30

    I know you probably don’t want this response but I would do a clean install . I’ve installed W10 on many machines with much lower specs than yours. On a netbook yes it would be a bit slow but reasonably good with an ssd. On an i5 processor it shouldn’t be that laggy. This is not scientific in the slightest but an upgrade over windows 7 is just not going to be as efficient as a clean install. I have a 10 year old laptop with an older i5 processor and only 3gb ran with an hdd and it’s fairly zippy. I have another identical laptop with 8gb ram and a Samsung ssd and it’s fast.

    Both had clean installs of windows 10. I know it’s a drag to reinstall everything (and reinstall Linux after windows) but IMO as a user, not an expert , you will get much better results.

    Before doing that though, did you uninstall one drive and turn off background apps? On a netbook W10 just won’t run with one drive installed - it’s a resource hog in the background IMO. Also turn off transparency settings in personalisation. Both of those should speed things up but it probably won’t be enough. I’d just format the drive and do a clean install of both (after backing up files of course). Then you’ll see the benefits of W10 running at its best.
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