Will adding RAM will help to speed up my PC?

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  1. Megahertz's Avatar
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       #21

    Disk 0 (SSD) is UEFI-GPT
    Disk 1 (HDD) is Legacy-MBR

    So I would say you can delete all partitions on the HDD and then use as a single partition for data only.
    As ignatzatsonic suggested, detach the HDD (SATA or power cable) from the MB and boot.
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  2. Posts : 27
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       #22

    ignatzatsonic said:
    Observations from your picture:

    Yes, Disk 0 appears to be your SSD, 500 GB total capacity; only about 100 used.

    Notice that your "system" partition is on Disk 1. Not disk 0. I think that means if disk 1 dropped dead tomorrow, you would no longer be able to start your PC. Find out for yourself. Temporarily disconnect disk 1 and see if you can boot.

    You have 363 GB of free space on C. You can use that for temporary storage if necessary.

    Apparently, you have a 2 TB external drive D called "Murat", with about 233 GB of free space.

    What I would try to do:

    Get ALL I say ALL of Windows onto the SSD Disk 0. You aren't there yet because "system" is still on Disk 1. That can be easily done, but I'm not qualified to tell you how.

    Then temporarily get ALL I say ALL of your personal data OFF of Disk 1 other than partition F. Onto your external or onto C temporarily or wherever. Maybe you already have. The point would be to delete all partitions on disk 1 OTHER THAN F after you get "system" onto the SSD.

    Then decide how much total data you have. Maybe it will all fit on Disk 1. Maybe you have to keep some of it on C at least temporarily. Disk 1 is 1 TB. You may as well use it rather than let it sit empty.

    Then image ALL partitions on the SSD using an application such as Macrium, so that you can easily recover if your SSD drops dead or becomes corrupted. Save that image file on the Disk 1 or the external.

    First thing I would do is:

    Disconnect disc 1 and confirm whether or not you can then boot.

    If you cannot, get "system" onto the SSD so that you can still operate even if the old HDD dies tomorrow.

    Get out a calculator and determine HOW MANY GB for ALL data (original versions, not backups or copies).

    More stuff after that, but get that done first.
    I think there is some confusion regarding that "system" volume that you are recommending to transfer to disk 0. When i asked the computer shop to add SSD drive i told them to reinstall current operating system on new SSD, and they actually did. In my understanding that "system" volume is an old operating system that i had before they added SSD. Incase if tomorrow something happens to my SSD they can still boot the system from the HDD because its still preserves the copy of the original operating system volume "system". This is how i understood and i was actually planning to wait for month and then format that volume called "system" along with volume G... all of that is my previous operating system with software installations i dont need that anymore. No personal data on those volumes except volume F.

    Do i have to open my processor and unplug the HDD?
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  3. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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       #23

    No, you don't "open the processor".

    You would shut down the PC and then open the case.

    Locate the hard drive, not the SSD.

    The hard drive will have 2 cables connected to it. Disconnect them.

    Attempt to reboot the PC with the cables pulled off.

    You're trying to confirm if booting is in any way dependent on the hard drive.

    It will boot or it won't. Say which.

    If it won't, reconnect the cables and boot.

    Report back regardless.

    Next step depends entirely on what you report.

    If you can boot, it's a pretty simple process from there on.

    Again..........how many GB of data total? Not copies, Not backups. Just "original" versions.
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  4. Ghot's Avatar
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       #24

    @Murat

    As others have mentioned... the case and everything in it, is called: The computer.
    The processor is the main chip on the motherboard, inside the computer.


    With that aside... here's an easy test you can run.

    1. Turn the computer OFF.
    2. Unhook the data and power cables from the 1TB hard drive.
    3. Turn the computer ON, and see if it boots into Windows.

    IF it DOES boot into Windows, then you KNOW you can delete the G: and the System partition on the 1TB hard drive.



    As a safety measure for possible future problems, you can use backup software, like Macrium Reflect (free or paid)

    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free



    The use of backup software will eliminate the "need" for the G: and the System partition on the 1TB drive.
    Because, IF something goes wrong you can just restore from a backup.







    Also, here is the picture from your .pdf file...



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    On Ten Forums we normally just post the pictures we need, rather than upload a .pdf with the picture.
    Just save the picture (on your desktop) in the .jpg or .png format, then use this icon when posting or replying to a tropic, to "post" your picture in your topic...

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  5. Posts : 27
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       #25

    ignatzatsonic said:
    No, you don't "open the processor".

    You would shut down the PC and then open the case.

    Locate the hard drive, not the SSD.

    The hard drive will have 2 cables connected to it. Disconnect them.

    Attempt to reboot the PC with the cables pulled off.

    You're trying to confirm if booting is in any way dependent on the hard drive.

    It will boot or it won't. Say which.

    If it won't, reconnect the cables and boot.

    Report back regardless.

    Next step depends entirely on what you report.

    If you can boot, it's a pretty simple process from there on.

    Again..........how many GB of data total? Not copies, Not backups. Just "original" versions.
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    Sorry for the language it wasn't clear. So i opened up the case unplugged the HDD and i was able to boot the computer everything run smooth. I checked all the volumes through my computer icon and HDD volumes were missing, there was only Local disk C . I plugged it back booted again now there all there.
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  6. Ghot's Avatar
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       #26

    Murat said:


    Sorry for the language it wasn't clear. So i opened up the case unplugged the HDD and i was able to boot the computer everything run smooth. I checked all the volumes through my computer icon and HDD volumes were missing, there was only Local disk C . I plugged it back booted again now there all there.



    If you mean all of Disk 0 was there, then that is as it should be.

    You can now hook up the 1TB drive and delete the System partition and the G: partition on the 1TB drive.
    Then you can extend the F: partition to gain that extra space.
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  7. Posts : 27
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       #27

    Ghot said:
    If you mean all of Disk 0 was there, then that is as it should be.

    You can now hook up the 1TB drive and delete the System partition and the G: partition on the 1TB drive.
    Then you can extend the F: partition to gain that extra space.
    Do you just go to disk management right click on those volumes and hit delete volume?
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  8. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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       #28

    Yeah, Disk Management should do it.

    I'm not sure why you'd need that HP recovery partition either, but you can worry about that later.

    Deleting those partitions should leave a bunch of "unallocated space".

    Then go to Disk Management, highlight the F partition, right click it, and look for "extend volume" or words to that effect.

    You want to end up with one huge F and no more "unallocated space".
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  9. Megahertz's Avatar
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       #29

    Windows Disk Manager can't extend a partition to the left side, only to the right. Some programs like Mini tool partition can extend a partition to the left side but it takes a long time as it also has to move the data to the right side.
    You don't need the HP Recover partition any more. It is outdated, useless.
    My suggestion is to make a partition image of F: and store on an external drive, clean all partitions, and then restore the F: partition on whole drive.
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  10. ignatzatsonic's Avatar
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       #30

    Yeah.......If you can't extend F to ALL of the unallocated space with Disk Management, you can use the free Minitool Partition Wizard to do it. It does not have the limitations of Disk Management.
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