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    thanks, what exactly do you want me to do?
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    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348

    plaurits said:
    thanks, what exactly do you want me to do?

    Please uninstall Avast using their uninstaller and perform a Clean Boot. If the startup VBS is not working, do your best with a watch or timer and post results. Thanks

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    Last edited by W10 Tweaker; 30 Apr 2021 at 10:01.
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    3rd Party antiviruses may be the culprit. Uninstall any 3rd party antiviruses and run the startup time script again.

    Another one: Do a clean boot and run the startup script again.
    Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 10 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts
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    Pls. find below conclusion for this case:

    I have downloaded bootracer free version in order to debug startup issue, ref. Download BootRacer 8.0.2021.0126 - Free Utility for Monitoring Windows Boot Time and Detecting Slow Startup Programs!
    Program seems to work fine for my purpose. Much simpler than autoruns and windows performance analyzer to pinpoint start time issues.

    Dell Optiplex 745 tower PC with 6 GB memory, LAN connected.
    Windows10 20H2
    Virus program: avast free antivirus.

    With this setup I now know from bootracer that avast is the culprit – as expected.
    However disabling this program from startup is not a good idea, so only option is to find a faster antivirus program or uninstall avast and use defender only.

    Thanks to all for valuable comments and ideas.

    Peter Lauritzen
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    Windows 10 Home 20H2

    plaurits said:
    same issue with clean install also
    plaurits said:
    avast is the culprit Ė as expected.
    Did the clean installation include Avast?

    plaurits said:
    uninstall avast and use defender only.
    It is a good idea.
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    1. startup time measured by bootracer was ~ 130 secs.
    2. after removing avast from startup using control startup in bootracer startup time reduced to ~ 55 secs.
    3. I have tried the delayed start option in avast under settings->troubleshoot, but I canít see any impact of that in startup time.
    4. hence I will ask in avast forum how this works.
    Br Peter
    starttime history from bootracer
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    I have selected below solution:
    1. uninstall avast.
    2. defender does support scheduling, see
    3. However I have installed malwarebytes instead, esp. to protect against PUPs. Premium version offers scheduling.
    Br Peter
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    Don't target, Isolate

    I've had similar symptoms, many time over the years. I currently have Windows 10 on an SDD.
    Here's how I isolate these slow boot issues:
    Win-R Run msconfig > General > Selective...>Uncheck all > OK
    Reboot If it was faster, you now know something is loading slowly, and that it is not you hardware. But, you don't know what or why, yet.
    Run msconfig > General > Diagnostic...> OK
    Q: Did it slow down again?.
    A: If yes, then your issue is either a Device Driver or Service (JUMP to DD below)
    A. If no, it's still a fast boot. Then you know it is likely an app that is auto-starting.
    Run msconfig > Set it back to normal startup (You're done with msconfig)
    To see the apps that are auto-starting got to Task Manager > Startup TabYour problem is likely one of the items listed. Experiment with disable/boot/disable/boot.
    If however the issue is a device drive or service, I find this much more complex to troubleshoot.
    Win-R Run msconfig > Set it back to normal startup (You're done with msconfig)
    WIn-R Run eventvwr > Custom Views Folder > Administrative Events
    Look at the Times and determine where the bootup takes place. If you have to, reboot at a specific time and come back. What warnings or errors happen right after bootup? (You're looking for clues in Events only right after boot) Example: Event Source is XYZ which Failed to start because of blah blah. So YOU waited while this device/service timed out. (A likely target)
    You can look at Device Drivers and Service Task Manager > Service Tab but there is a better tool. Nirsoft's serviwin. (Free)
    It provides a lot more information, and you can filter out all the Microsoft stuff leaving only the 3rd party Drivers and services. (Options > Show Only Non-Microsoft...) Look for Items that are "Automatic" but "Stopped". These may be your target. I can't help you further here, it depends on what you see.
    Device Manager can sometimes lead to a solution too.
    Win-R Run devmgmt.msc > Look for an Icon that indicates device is having trouble
    In here I have found solutions by updating drivers or disabling unwanted/suspect devices.
    My general MO is to first reduce the number of targets, then target.
    Last edited by KeithL; 03 May 2021 at 18:01. Reason: Poor formatting and spelling
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    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348


    That looks remarkably like a Clean Boot.
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    Windows 10

    Agree somewhat. Of course describing a clean boot wouldn't require 30 lines. And a clean boot only gives you binary information.
    No, it's gradations of clean, layers to isolate. But you know that because you are a Guru, aren't you?
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