Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors

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  1. Posts : 456
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors


    The screenshot tells the whole story, so do I just ignore it or what?

    Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors-errorsornot.png

    xml details:

    Code:
    - <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">- <System>
      <Provider Name="Chkdsk" /> 
    
      <EventID Qualifiers="0">26226</EventID> 
    
      <Version>0</Version> 
    
      <Level>4</Level> 
    
      <Task>0</Task> 
    
      <Opcode>0</Opcode> 
    
      <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> 
    
      <TimeCreated SystemTime="2021-03-13T03:46:26.3720563Z" /> 
    
      <EventRecordID>18171</EventRecordID> 
    
      <Correlation /> 
    
      <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" /> 
    
      <Channel>Application</Channel> 
    
      <Computer>Big-Blue</Computer> 
    
      <Security /> 
    
      </System>
    
    
    - <EventData>
      <Data>Checking file system on C: The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. A snapshot error occured while scanning this drive. Run an offline scan and fix.</Data> 
    
      </EventData>
    
    
    
    
    </Event>
    And yes I have ran
    chkdsk C: /f /offlinescanandfix
    earlier today with that error message still popping up when I check disc C in file explorer properties.
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  2. Posts : 16,561
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.3930
       #2

    See how it responds to

    Code:
    fsutil dirty query C:
    [poss expect the response that the disk is dirty]

    Code:
    chkdsk c: /F /V /R /X
    [to fix it]

    Code:
    fsutil dirty query C:
    [and expect the response that the disk is not dirty anymore]


    Denis
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  3. Posts : 456
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    responses are:

    Volume - C: is NOT Dirty

    It just finished the scan - no changes, same message.
    Last edited by vgchat; 13 Mar 2021 at 01:10.
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  4. Posts : 41,294
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #4

    Run HD Tune (free version) (all drives)
    HD Tune website
    Post images into the thread for results on these tabs:
    a) Health
    b) Benchmark
    c) Full error scan

    Run Sea Tools for Windows
    long generic test
    Post an image of the test result into the thread
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    Take Screenshot in Windows 10
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...re-screenshots

    How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files at Ten Forums
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  5. Posts : 42,475
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    The best instant comprehensible analysis I know of is given by
    Hard Disk Sentinel (trial) - portable version available. Right on its GUI.

    There's a tab on the left for each disk you have. Includes a communication test and estimate of life.
    Informs numbers of damaged and weak sectors.
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  6. Posts : 41,294
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #6

    HD Sentinel works well.
    The problem with the software is its automatic repair.

    The HD Tune software will map bad sectors.

    If HD Sentinel is ran first the bad sector map is no longer visible.
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  7. Posts : 42,475
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    @zbook: I asked HDS about what you said:
    I recommended the use of HDS as is my habit on tenforums: another user commented thus:
    "HD Sentinel works well.
    The problem with the software is its automatic repair.

    The HD Tune software will map bad sectors.

    If HD Sentinel is ran first the bad sector map is no longer visible.

    This came as a surprise, assuming all that is done is to run HDS with default settings. Does this comment make any sense to you?

    Here is the developer's reply: please feel free to discuss this further with him.

    No, this is nonsense. Not really sure what the user did, tried or experienced, but what he wrote is not true (maybe except the first line ;-)

    I can confirm that no, Hard Disk Sentinel does NOT automatically repair sectors.

    Generally in Hard Disk Sentinel, you can use

    Disk menu -> Surface test -> Read test : to detect, reveal possible unreadable sectors.
    You can even check which file(s) related, which file(s) may be damaged and then
    can specifically select to manually repair those sectors (*)

    or you can use

    Disk menu -> Surface test -> Disk Repair test : to perform the above to detect, reveal possible unreadable sectors PLUS perform the repair automatically (*)
    Not sure, but it is possible that the user started this function (?)


    (*) means that these functions completely missing from the other tool mentioned:
    so that tool does not give any options to repair (or as he called "map") the sectors.

    Bad sectors already remapped by the hard disk / SSD are no longer visible in any software
    of course. If you see "bad sectors" displayed in Hard Disk Sentinel in the text description,
    it means that the disk drive(s) already reallocated ("remapped"). It does not mean
    Hard Disk Sentinel remapped them automatically - but it means that the hard disk itself remapped (maybe even before installation of Hard Disk Sentinel) - and then the user can't see their original location in any disk test performed
    by any software - as the spare sector used instead of the original (bad) one.

    The disk tests (in any software) helps to reveal possible further damaged sectors (which
    can be "bad"), which may need to be remapped / repaired. And there Hard Disk
    Sentinel can help to perform the manual or automatic repairing (depending on the function used by the user).

    And if all bad sectors are remapped, then the status can be improved in Hard Disk Sentinel (*) to do not display those problems, restore the health and be notified about possible new issues/degradations - for example possible
    new bad sectors (if there will be).

    You can check for more details at:
    Hard Disk Sentinel Frequently Asked Questions
    Hard Disk Sentinel Frequently Asked Questions
    How to repair hard disk drive?
    Hard disk case: weak sectors

    If you have any questions or I can help, please let me know.

    Have a nice day,

    Janos Mathe
    developer
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    info@hdsentinel.com
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  8. Posts : 41,294
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #8

    @dalchina

    This has been repeated many times in Ten Forums and each time the OP had launched Hard Disk Sentinel it appeared to have fixed bad sectors. Then HD Tune full error scan displayed no bad sectors.



    Other OP had ran HD Tune first which displayed bad sectors.
    HD Sentinel was then ran and HD Tune was repeated.
    There were no bad sectors seen.


    (The sectors may not have been fixed but appear to be fixed as they disappeared from HD Tune full error scan)


    These are from the computer in which this post has been typed:

    This is the free version.
    The automatic remapping was done automatically.
    There was no control.


    "There are 24 bad sectors on the disk surface." "The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area."

    Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors-hd-sentinel-part-1-12072020.png


    Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors-hd-sentinel-part-2-12072020.png



    In this thread I had intended to run HD Sentinel after running HD Tune in case bad sectors were found.
    In the logs there were no bad sectors reported.
    So this is not the ideal thread for assessing the impact of running Hard Disk Sentinel on HD full error scans.

    The ideal test is to find the event viewer reports of bad sectors.
    Then run HD Tune full error scan > view bad sectors.
    Then run Hard Disk Sentinel > view report that "The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area." > then repeat HD Tune full error scan.
    (In prior threads this had displayed the disappearance of bad sectors on HD Tune)
    Last edited by zbook; 13 Mar 2021 at 09:19.
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  9. Posts : 456
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Hi those are older SS of drives that I no longer have, my system specs section reflects those changes. Anyhow, here's hd tune results, and I can't use HD Sentinel Pro as I grabbed it from a giveaway some time ago and have since formatted the drive it was installed on.


    Windows giving conflicting message about drive errors-drives.png
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  10. Posts : 41,294
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #10

    When available please post images for health, benchmark, and full error scans.
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