Best hard drive health software?

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  1. Posts : 116
    Windows 7 - trying to upgrade
    Thread Starter
       #31

    Bree said:
    Maybe mine will speed up when it gets past the used data, my SSD is nearly half full.....

    Attachment 322232
    I think the 870 is a bit faster than the 860, but I believe it was only a 20-25% difference. My drive is also about half full, so about twice as much data. Though I don't think the full scan is checking the drive in that way. Must be another explanation - perhaps your interface speed?

    I'll have to run on my 860 once it's back in the box.

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    zbook said:
    This is an upgrade checklist: (modified for upgrading 7 to 10)

    Code:
    UPGRADE CHECK LIST:
    Run through this check list before the next upgrade attempt:
    
    1) remove nonessential hardware
    docks
    USB devices
    printers
    headset
    speakers
    joysticks
    projectors
    scanners
    plotters
    portable optical drives (CD, DVD)
    microphones
    cameras
    webcams
    smartphones
    bluetooth devices
    USB drives (other than a windows 10 iso if used for the upgrade)
    USB Wireless Mouse or Keyboard Receiver, USB Wireless Network Card
    secondary monitors
    
    
    2) These should be the only attached devices:
    wired mouse
    wired keyboard
    monitor
    
    Any of these that have been done in the past week are not necessary to repeat:
    
    
    3) open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste: (repair file system)
    chkdsk /r /v C:
    This may take many hours so plan to run overnight
    Find the chkdsk report in the event viewer using the information in this link and post into the thread:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/96938-check-disk-chkdsk-read-event-viewer-log.html
    
    4) open administrative command prompt and copy and paste: (repair operating system)
    sfc /scannow 
    
    When this has completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread
    
    5) update windows (have all recommended updates installed) and reboot after updates
    
    6) List and uninstall all non-Microsoft antivirus software
    (This includes always on and manual software.)
    (This includes running the applicable antivirus uninstall tools for any AV that could have been incompletely uninstalled)
    https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/2625/
    (And this includes uninstalling Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) immediately before the upgrade attempt)
    
    7) List and uninstall all non-Microsoft firewall software
    
    8) List all Microsoft and non-Microsoft drive encryption software. 
    Uninstall all non-Microsoft disk encryption software
    
    9) Run disk cleanup to clean temporary and system files
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/818-disk-cleanup-open-use.html
    
    10) Create and verify that the drive has > 30 GB free space (At least 25 GB is needed for maintaining certain dump files)
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/129976-hard-disk-space-free-up-recover.html
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/274797-disk-management-post-screen-capture-image.html
    
    
    11) Consider placing the computer in clean startup:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/179159-troubleshoot-application-conflicts-performing-clean-startup.html
    
    12) Detach all SATA devices other than the disk drive that has the Windows operating system
    (Make sure that the only disk drive that is attached to the computer at the time of the upgrade attempt is the disk drive containing Windows)
    (Other disk drives may be able to be detached by disconnecting cables or if necessary to remove the drive from the computer)
    
    13) Make sure that there is no metered connection:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17452/windows-metered-internet-connections-faq
    
    14) Consider making a free backup image:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/218920-macrium-reflect-create-bootable-rescue-usb-drive.html
    
    15) Test the drive:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/313457-seatools-dos-windows-how-use.html
    Crystal Disk standard edition:
    https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/
    Thanks for the nice checklist. Why repair the old OS before eliminating it? I feel like there's more that could go wrong as a result of that step - I'm not that trusting of MS Windows repair tools unless absolutely needed. They seem to create more problems than they fix.

    I remember once I had a hard drive full of data. The data was accessible. Windows flagged an issue with the drive, ran chkdsk on it, made more than an hour worth of changes. When it was done, my drive had no accessible data. MS turned it into a doorstop.

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    Incidentally, about how much time should I budget for chkdsk /r on a 1TB SSD (Samsung QVO 970)? More like an hour or more like 10 hours?
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  2. Posts : 1,345
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #32

    lbeachmike said:
    I think the 870 is a bit faster than the 860, but I believe it was only a 20-25% difference. My drive is also about half full, so about twice as much data. Though I don't think the full scan is checking the drive in that way. Must be another explanation - perhaps your interface speed?

    I'll have to run on my 860 once it's back in the box.

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    Thanks for the nice checklist. Why repair the old OS before eliminating it? I feel like there's more that could go wrong as a result of that step - I'm not that trusting of MS Windows repair tools unless absolutely needed. They seem to create more problems than they fix.

    I remember once I had a hard drive full of data. The data was accessible. Windows flagged an issue with the drive, ran chkdsk on it, made more than an hour worth of changes. When it was done, my drive had no accessible data. MS turned it into a doorstop.

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    Incidentally, about how much time should I budget for chkdsk /r on a 1TB SSD (Samsung QVO 970)? More like an hour or more like 10 hours?
    "Why repair the old OS before eliminating it?"
    Follow zbooks advice. When you are trying to upgrade from a system that has issues, it's likely the issues will be included into an upgrade.
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  3. Posts : 1,345
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #33

    lbeachmike said:
    Thanks, but could you clarify why this is being recommended? I am back on Win7 and about to upgrade to Win10, so is there any benefit to verifying system files *before* upgrade? It may be confusing to keep up with where I'm at
    "is there any benefit to verifying system files *before* upgrade?"
    Yes. You need to upgrade to a new system from a system that is in proper shape.

    A clean install could be applicable, but there's some discussion to determine that
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  4. Posts : 116
    Windows 7 - trying to upgrade
    Thread Starter
       #34

    MeAndMyComputer said:
    "Why repair the old OS before eliminating it?"
    Follow zbooks advice. When you are trying to upgrade from a system that has issues, it's likely the issues will be included into an upgrade.
    I am not upgrading from a system that has issues. My Win 7 was, and still is, stable and reliable. The issues occurred on Win 10 after upgrade. My apprehension of running more Windows tools than necessary is not without merit. The Windows 10 installer itself is so incredibly buggy that it wouldn't upgrade because of an Acronis installation that wasn't even on the installation it was upgrading (it was on a different drive with a different OS.) To me, buggy behavior like this is mind-boggling. You guys have assembled a 10-step checklist, including removing all devices other than a wired mouse and keyboard just to upgrade. Again, mind-boggling. It's great that you guys are here and provide so much help, but I'm just thinking about what's required to upgrade our Apple laptop ... nothing. If there are requirements, Apple takes care of them for you. Or Linux, as somebody pointed out on one of these threads. I've always preferred Windows machines over the alternatives, but after this upgrade experience - to an OS I don't even like, I can see myself looking for alternatives next time around. Of course I realize that all OS's have their shortcomings - pros and cons, but after all these years of Windows, the Windows 10 experience is the worst yet. They are supposed to improve things over time, aren't they?

    Sorry for the Windows rant - again, you guys here have been really awesome and I appreciate everybody's interest, kindness and responsiveness.

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    MeAndMyComputer said:
    "is there any benefit to verifying system files *before* upgrade?"
    Yes. You need to upgrade to a new system from a system that is in proper shape.

    A clean install could be applicable, but there's some discussion to determine that
    My thoughts here are much the same. I am very apprehensive about running more MS malware-type tools unless absolutely necessary. I wouldn't mind if the tool is interactive and offers the user the option to change something or leave it alone, but the auto-pilot tools seem to become nightmares too often.

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    Regarding comments in my previous two posts, you guys regularly work with these tools far more than I do - but my opinions are based on 41 years of overall computing experience across many platforms. I'm curious of other people's thoughts ... I know MS also has plenty of really great tools.
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  5. Posts : 41,323
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #35

    With backup images you can clean install Windows 10.
    Any version can be installed for testing purposes and then upgrades can be performed to any version for additional testing.
    At any time you can restore the image and you are back to where you started.

    There are a lot of factors that could cause failure to upgrade and Microsoft has created troubleshooting steps for IT pros.
    The check list was created using Ten Forums tutorials and the information from the Microsoft link for upgrade troubleshooting.

    Earlier in your other thread there were bat files to run that would check windows 10 and would collect files for troubleshooting.
    The results from these bat files were not posted so the computer with windows 10 was not troubleshooted.
    If you had posted them the log files would have been scanned for problems related to upgrade or problems after the upgrade.

    The Samsung Magician was edited out after seeing the title.
    It had been included with edit add and edit removal before the post that Bree had made.


    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...upgrade-errors
    Post #130:
    Win10 upgrade asking me to uninstall already-removed Acronis software
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  6. Posts : 116
    Windows 7 - trying to upgrade
    Thread Starter
       #36

    Is there a way to do chkdsk /r without changes, so I can see if there are any errors requiring correction?

    Also, how long do you think it will take on a Samsung QVO 870 1TB SSD?

    Thanks.
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  7. Posts : 41,323
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #37

    It's best to run Chkdsk switches overnight.

    When running chkdsk using a bootable windows 10 iso it typically displays ETA.

    A problematic 750 GB HD can start with an ETA that starts with 11 hours that changes to 5 hours after concluding some steps.

    SSD runs are typically substantially shorter than HDs.
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  8. Posts : 116
    Windows 7 - trying to upgrade
    Thread Starter
       #38

    zbook said:
    It's best to run Chkdsk switches overnight.

    When running chkdsk using a bootable windows 10 iso it typically displays ETA.

    A problematic 750 GB HD can start with an ETA that starts with 11 hours that changes to 5 hours after concluding some steps.

    SSD runs are typically substantially shorter than HDs.
    It ran pretty quick. Under an hour. Disk is clean.
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  9. Posts : 39
    Windows 10 version 21H2
       #39

    SPECCY does a nice job and gives you all the SMART parameters . It looks a lot better in the program than it does here but it gives you a lot of info .


    Manufacturer Seagate
    Form Factor 3.5"
    Heads 16
    Cylinders 121,601
    Tracks 31,008,255
    Sectors 1,953,520,065
    SATA type SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
    Device type Fixed
    ATA Standard ATA8-ACS
    Serial Number 5VP70YKW
    Firmware Version Number CC68
    LBA Size 48-bit LBA
    Power On Count 4118 times
    Power On Time 952.4 days
    Speed 7200 RPM
    Features S.M.A.R.T., NCQ
    Max. Transfer Mode SATA II 3.0Gb/s
    Used Transfer Mode SATA II 3.0Gb/s
    Interface SATA
    Capacity 931 GB
    Real size 1,000,204,886,016 bytes
    RAID Type None
    S.M.A.R.T
    Status Good
    Temperature 78 F
    Temperature Range OK (less than 122 F)
    S.M.A.R.T attributes
    Attribute name Real value Current Worst Threshold Raw Value Status
    01 Read Error Rate 0 111 99 6 00022813FD Good
    03 Spin-Up Time 0 ms 95 95 0 0000000000 Good
    04 Start/Stop Count 8,262 92 92 20 0000002046 Good
    05 Reallocated Sectors Count 0 100 100 36 0000000000 Good
    07 Seek Error Rate 0 87 60 30 002327DA78 Good
    09 Power-On Hours (POH) 952d 10h 74 74 0 000000594A Good
    0A Spin Retry Count 0 100 100 97 0000000000 Good
    0C Device Power Cycle Count 4,118 96 96 20 0000001016 Good
    B7 SATA Downshift Error Count 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
    B8 End-to-End error / IOEDC 0 100 100 99 0000000000 Good
    BB Reported Uncorrectable Errors 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
    BC Command Timeout 21 100 99 0 0000000015 Good
    BD High Fly Writes (WDC) 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
    BE Airflow Temperature 76 F 76 67 45 0018130018 Good
    C2 Temperature 76 F 24 40 0 0000000018 Good
    C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 51 26 0 00022813FD Good
    C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
    C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100 100 0 0000000000 Good
    C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 0 200 200 0 0000000000 Good
    F0 Head Flying Hours 1417d 5h 100 253 0 00000084DD Good
    F1 Total LBAs Written 645,145,311 100 253 0 00267422DF Good
    F2 Total LBAs Read 4,094,621,012 100 253 0 00F40EF554 Good
    Partition 0
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  10. Posts : 116
    Windows 7 - trying to upgrade
    Thread Starter
       #40

    I had SPECCY installed. Windows 10 upgrade removed it due to compatibility. Looks like they have a newer version.
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