SSD defrag issue?

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  1. Posts : 449
    win 10
       #1

    SSD defrag issue?


    I'm using Auslogic Disk Defrag 9
    I have an M2 SSD and have set 'Use only SSD defragmentation' and 'Use the TRIM feature'
    The analysis shows the drive as 17% defragmented but when I run the optimisation it finishes OK but the still shows 17% defragmented
    Am I missing something?
    Is optimisation so different to defragmentation that the 17% stays the same?
    If so then what is optimisation actually doing vs defragmentation?
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  2. Posts : 16,573
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.3930
       #2

    If you have set an SSD to be 'optimised' weekly by the Defragmenter [C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe], then it actually trims & defrags monthly.
    This info is in defrag - Microsoft Docs under the sub-heading 'Scheduled task'
    I do not know how this relates to the utility you are using. Perhaps they have detailed support pages that contain similar explanations to that for the MS utility.

    Denis
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  3. Posts : 41,313
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #3

    Open administrative PS and copy and paste:

    Optimize-Volume -DriveLetter c -Analyze -Verbose

    When this has completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    Use this link as needed when posting results:
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  4. Posts : 449
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #4

    zbook said:
    Open administrative PS and copy and paste:

    Optimize-Volume -DriveLetter c -Analyze -Verbose

    When this has completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    Use this link as needed when posting results:
    How to Change Post Editor to Source or WYSIWYG Mode at TenForums.com
    Windows PowerShell
    Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    Install the latest PowerShell for new features and improvements! https://aka.ms/PSWindows PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Optimize-Volume -DriveLetter C -Analyze -Verbose VERBOSE: Invoking analysis on WIN10 (C:)... VERBOSE: Analysis: 0% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 24% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 25% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 40% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 41% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 42% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 43% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 58% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 61% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 64% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 69% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 72% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 77% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 82% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 89% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 93% complete... VERBOSE: Analysis: 100% complete.
    VERBOSE:
    Post Defragmentation Report:
    VERBOSE:
    Volume Information:
    VERBOSE: Volume size = 231.50 GB
    VERBOSE: Cluster size = 4 KB
    VERBOSE: Used space = 92.74 GB
    VERBOSE: Free space = 138.76 GB
    VERBOSE:
    Fragmentation:
    VERBOSE: Total fragmented space = 15%
    VERBOSE: Average fragments per file = 1.45
    VERBOSE: Movable files and folders = 151121
    VERBOSE: Unmovable files and folders = 10
    VERBOSE:
    Files:
    VERBOSE: Fragmented files = 11091
    VERBOSE: Total file fragments = 63743
    VERBOSE:
    Folders:
    VERBOSE: Total folders = 10655
    VERBOSE: Fragmented folders = 1132
    VERBOSE: Total folder fragments = 3690
    VERBOSE:
    Free space:
    VERBOSE: Free space count = 2117
    VERBOSE: Average free space size = 70.11 MB
    VERBOSE: Largest free space size = 103.50 GB
    VERBOSE:
    Master File Table (MFT):
    VERBOSE: MFT size = 443.25 MB
    VERBOSE: MFT record count = 453887
    VERBOSE: MFT usage = 100%
    VERBOSE: Total MFT fragments = 7
    VERBOSE: Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.
    VERBOSE:
    It is recommended that you defragment this volume.
    PS C:\WINDOWS\system32>
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  5. Posts : 7,607
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #5

    Try running Auslogics Disk Defrag on Windows PE.
    Auslogics Disk Defrag Free works fine on my Windows PE.
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  6. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #6

    robgr said:
    I have an M2 SSD
    SSD doesn't have to be defragmented or optimized like hard drives with a spinning head, doing so you're only reducing the lifetime of your SSD and gain nothing.

    If you want faster performing SSD drive and not spending cash for faster drive, then installing as few software as possible is probably the best option you can get.

    for example fresh installed system "can make" your SSD drive twice or more as fast (at least it could feel so), however installing more and more software on it will make it slower, Windows OS can also make the drive slower as it get's older ex. by collecting junk.

    You can also try to remove junk and unneeded programs although this won't give you the speed that fresh system can.
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  7. Posts : 18,405
    Windows 11 Pro
       #7

    For the real story on SSDs and fragmentation:
    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman's Blog

    I, personally, would not let any third party program touch the SSD in regards to fragmentation. Unless maybe it came from the manufacturer of the SSD.

    If you want, just scroll down to the conclusion:

    No, Windows is not foolishly or blindly running a defrag on your SSD every night, and no, Windows defrag isn't shortening the life of your SSD unnecessarily. Modern SSDs don't work the same way that we are used to with traditional hard drives.

    Yes, your SSD's file system sometimes needs a kind of defragmentation and that's handled by Windows, monthly by default, when appropriate. The intent is to maximize performance and a long life. If you disable defragmentation completely, you are taking a risk that your filesystem metadata could reach maximum fragmentation and get you potentially in trouble.
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  8. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #8

    Interesting link, I've read it and from my understanding the biggest impact that forces you to use SSD defragmentation is system restore, anything else is less or of no impact since no task done on home user system does so huge data reads or writes.
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  9. Posts : 56,792
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #9

    Not a bad read for being 6+ years old.
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  10. Posts : 16,573
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.3930
       #10

    zebal said:
    SSD doesn't have to be defragmented or optimized like hard drives with a spinning head, doing so you're only reducing the lifetime of your SSD and gain nothing.
    MS disagrees.
    Try3 said:
    ... an SSD … actually trims & defrags monthly.
    This info is in defrag - Microsoft Docs under the sub-heading 'Scheduled task'
    Denis
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