Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?

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  1. Posts : 281
    Win 10 21H2 LTSC
       #101

    cytherian said:
    I saw a number of people here make a point of saying how you should never use the Registry cleaner tool provided by CCleaner. Is there any such cleaner out there worth using? My main concern is previous uninstalls where garbage may have been left behind that Windows doesn't automatically clean up.
    Microsoft themselves even say to not use one. The amount cleaned is a tiny % of the overall size so there defenitly is no performance improvement from it and the risk of breaking is higher than the risk of fixing anything.

    Sometimes that "garbage" is left deliberatly so if you reinstall, the settings are remembered.

    The best thing is to not be constantly installing and removing programs.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...1-7b0fd54e8b3a
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  2. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #102

    cytherian said:
    I saw a number of people here make a point of saying how you should never use the Registry cleaner tool provided by CCleaner....
    As others have already said, there's little or no advantage to be gained by 'cleaning' the registry.

    As registry cleaner go, CCleaner is possibly one of the more conservative ones. I have used it myself, but only rarely. Typically that would only be after removing adware and PUPs from a used machine where a clean install would have been impractical. It finds the last few registry entries left behind.

    It gives you the choice of which items to remove from the list it finds. If you know your way round the registry it can be used 'safely'. But as a regular cleaning routine? No, I'd never recommend that.
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  3. Posts : 5,452
    Windows 11 Home
       #103

    Chrysalis said:
    Microsoft themselves even say to not use one.
    Microsoft is the reason those utilities exist in the first place, people do not use them out of a boredom.

    That is like a car dealer saying, do not bother going for a regular checkup/maintenance, our car is perfect, in case of a problem you can simply get a new one, thus reinstall Windows or get a new computer.
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  4. Posts : 310
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit 19045 Multiprocessor Free
       #104

    love ccleaner!!!
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  5. Posts : 1,621
    Windows 10 Home
       #105

    I use an older portable CCleaner, one that reportedly does not call home like the newer ones do, maybe bi-monthly, more or less. I use Auslogics and Wise registry cleaners like rifles, not like shotguns. Having backups makes rare experimenting safer.
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  6. Posts : 7,901
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #106

    RolandJS said:
    I use an older portable CCleaner, one that reportedly does not call home like the newer ones do, maybe bi-monthly, more or less. I use Auslogics and Wise registry cleaners like rifles, not like shotguns. Having backups makes rare experimenting safer.
    I have no problems using the latest portable version
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  7. Posts : 6,839
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #107

    cytherian said:
    I saw a number of people here make a point of saying how you should never use the Registry cleaner tool provided by CCleaner.
    I never use any automatic registry cleaner.

    Which registry cleaner to use ?

    I was using Ccleaner for years but ditched it recently and use alternatives. I never used the registry cleaner component.
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  8. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #108

    RolandJS said:
    I use an older portable CCleaner, one that reportedly does not call home like the newer ones do....


    As I recall, 5.38 from December 2018 was the last version from an independent Piriform before Avast got involved. The problem with using a version that old is that it only knows how to clean software that existed back then. No cleaning for Chromium Edge, for example.

    The 'portable' version saves its settings to the folder containing the CCleaner exe file, the 'installed' version saves them to the registry. There is actually only one 'version' of CCleaner, the presence or absence of the Portable.dat file switches its behaviour.

    The portable version of CCleaner 'knows' that it is portable because of the presence of the file portable.dat in the application folder. If CCleaner finds the file portable.dat in the application folder, it will always save its settings to CCleaner.ini. The contents of the portable.dat file do not matter - you can create a dummy file.
    CCleaner.com - What do CCleaners INI files do?
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  9. Posts : 6,839
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #109

    Bree said:
    As I recall, 5.38 from December 2018 was the last version from an independent Piriform before Avast got involved. The problem with using a version that old is that it only knows how to clean software that existed back then. No cleaning for Chromium Edge, for example.
    Tried installing 538. It won't install. If anyone wants to try:

    Code:
    https://download.ccleaner.com/ccsetup538.exe
    On another note: I ditched Ccleaner but decided to go back to an old version as suggested. I got:

    565 Slim Build

    Code:
    https://download.ccleaner.com/slim/ccsetup565_slim.exe
    Once installed:

    Delete Ccleaner Emergency Update scheduled task.
    Delete the updater (executable) in the program folder.

    Configure these:

    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-updates.jpg

    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-advanced.jpg

    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-privacy.jpg

    Import these two reg files (when Ccleaner is not running)

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Piriform]
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Piriform\CCleaner]
    "RunICS"="0"
    "Brandover"="0"
    "Language"="1033"
    "Monitoring"="0"
    "HelpImproveCCleaner"="0"
    "SystemMonitoring"="0"
    "UpdateAuto"="0"
    "UpdateCheck"="0"
    "CheckTrialOffer"="0"
    "(Cfg)QuickClean"="0"
    "(Cfg)HealthCheck"="0"
    "(Cfg)GetIpmForTrial"="0"
    "(Cfg)SoftwareUpdater"="0"
    "(Cfg)SoftwareUpdaterIpm"="0"
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Piriform]
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Piriform\CCleaner]
    "GD"="35a7238d-eeff-4816-b9a8-fba55115e495"
    @="C:\\Program Files\\CCleaner"
    "UpdateAuto"="0"
    "UpdateCheck"="0"
    "CheckTrialOffer"="0"
    "(Cfg)GetIpmForTrial"="0"
    "(Cfg)SoftwareUpdater"="0"
    "(Cfg)SoftwareUpdaterIpm"="0"
    "Monitoring"="0"
    "HelpImproveCCleaner"="0"
    "SystemMonitoring"="0"
    "(Cfg)QuickClean"="0"
    "(Cfg)HealthCheck"="0"
    Then to update rules including Edge Chromium cleanup - grab a copy of winapp2ool.exe and drop it inside the program folder.

    Latest CCleaner Version Released

    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-winapp2ool-ccleaner.jpg

    Run winap2ool.exe as admin and choose option to update and trim.

    When you launch Cccleaner the crap is removed and it's back to how it used to be. A system cleaner without the added extras.


    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-ccleaner-free-home-use.jpg

    If you added extensions to Edge then you might want to configure exclusions.


    Does anyone still use tune up utilities like CCleaner?-exclusions.jpg

    Just my methods. You'll get a lot of argument or disagreement on how to use/ configure Ccleaner.
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  10. Posts : 281
    Win 10 21H2 LTSC
       #110

    TairikuOkami said:
    Microsoft is the reason those utilities exist in the first place, people do not use them out of a boredom.
    That is like a car dealer saying, do not bother going for a regular checkup/maintenance, our car is perfect, in case of a problem you can simply get a new one, thus reinstall Windows or get a new computer.
    Except dormant registry entries are not actually a problem. They have no performance impact and wont break anything.
    I will trust the developer of an operating system over a 3rd party vendor who wants to give you a reason to buy/use their software. :)

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    Bree said:
    As others have already said, there's little or no advantage to be gained by 'cleaning' the registry.

    As registry cleaner go, CCleaner is possibly one of the more conservative ones. I have used it myself, but only rarely. Typically that would only be after removing adware and PUPs from a used machine where a clean install would have been impractical. It finds the last few registry entries left behind.

    It gives you the choice of which items to remove from the list it finds. If you know your way round the registry it can be used 'safely'. But as a regular cleaning routine? No, I'd never recommend that.
    Yep thats a good point, I would in similar situation if I knew some how PUP got on my pc and then uninstalled it, it may in that instance be worthy of at least doing the check function in a registry cleaner, although not neccessarily a good idea to let it do its cleaning, if anything comes up that you know is PUP related then manually remove it from registry after running the check to see where it is.
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