Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen

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  1. Posts : 107
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen


    Anyone else seen this before?

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-optimize-drives.jpg

    It's just seen in the Optimize Drives screen, not elsewhere as seen when checking out Disk Management for example

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-disk-management.jpg

    I'm on Version 10.0.19041.450
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  2. Posts : 6,853
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #2

    FYI:

    Unknown drive listed under optimize drives

    I don't know what it is.
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  3. Posts : 107
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks.
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  4. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #4

    I saw this after I had partitioned a disk 7 years ago.
    - The new drives were shown and the oddly-named one was also shown.
    - It turned out that it was a GUID referring to the pre-partitioned whole disk.

    You could look into it using DiskPart commands to get GUIDs for disks and partitions if you wanted.
    DiskPart, List disk, Select disk N, UniqueID disk
    DiskPart, List disk, Select disk N, Detail disk
    similarly
    DiskPart, List disk, Select disk N, List part, Sel part N, UniqueID part
    DiskPart, List disk, Select disk N, List part, Sel part N, Detail part
    I also appear to have looked up How Do I Find the Partition GUID - TechNet where other methods are discussed.

    I used Change settings [shown in your diagram] to ignore that entry.
    Soon afterwards, I disabled scheduled defrag anyway and set up my own Task scheduler task so Defrag would run whether or not the computer was in the idle condition and whether or not it was running on battery power. In my own task, I explicitly listed the drives that did exist.

    My notes are vague about just when the GUID entry disappeared from the Defragmenter list [shown in your diagram] but I still have a screenshot taken a few weeks after my 7 year old notes were written and that entry had definitely disappeared by then. Perhaps it disappeared after the next reboot following my changes to the Change settings drives list?

    All the best,
    Denis
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  5. Posts : 107
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Many thanks Denis for your detailed reply and for trying to help!

    I tried what you suggested but can't find the weird looking drive listed by Defrag. Also, I'm not fully sure what you mean by 'Change settings [shown in your diagram]'? I assume using that is based on the fact you first were able to identify the correct drive in the first step?

    Maybe I'm just misunderstanding or doing something wrong. Anyway, this is the result after I ran through my installed disks and sorry for the lousy formatting. Looked good before posting it but I hope you can still make out what's important. Will see if I can make it slightly better.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>diskpart

    Microsoft DiskPart version 10.0.19041.1

    Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.

    On computer: THENEST

    DISKPART> list disk

    Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
    -------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
    Disk 0 Online 3726 GB 0 B *
    Disk 1 Online 9 TB 0 B *
    Disk 2 Online 476 GB 0 B *
    Disk 3 Online 931 GB 2048 KB *

    DISKPART> select disk 0

    Disk 0 is now the selected disk.

    DISKPART> uniqueid disk

    Disk ID: {50334531-F81B-43CE-8E85-7D57A5F12862}

    DISKPART> select disk 1

    Disk 1 is now the selected disk.

    DISKPART> uniqueid disk

    Disk ID: {51B8187B-1A45-4350-8B15-4C9522FBCE9B}

    DISKPART> select disk 2

    Disk 2 is now the selected disk.

    DISKPART> uniqueid disk

    Disk ID: {E623C22E-B5B0-43E1-8C9F-F6C9FF4A2AE8}

    DISKPART> select disk 3

    Disk 3 is now the selected disk.

    DISKPART> uniqueid disk

    Disk ID: {9E7C787A-1C43-47A6-99ED-6BA191872B63}
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  6. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    "'Change settings [shown in your diagram]'?"
    - I was just trying to be brief. I meant the Change settings button - it was shown in your diagram.

    I can see that the mystery GUID is not in your results. Did you run through the partition GUIDs as well?

    [The forum editor sometimes throws away line breaks in blocks of pasted text and it has done so in your last post. If you edit that post and put the line breaks back in then it should keep them. Isn't life fun.]
    You beat me to it.

    Denis
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  7. Posts : 107
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Thanks Denis,

    After writing my last post, I found the button you were referring to. I thought you were talking about a command of some kind rather than a button

    After using that button to disable the automatic schedule, I was happy to see how the weird looking volume disappeared. I then re-enabled the automatic schedule and still, the volume was gone. I then restarted my PC and the weird looking volume still was gone.

    Right now though when I had a quick look just to confirm it's still gone...what do you know...it's all of a sudden back. The only thing I have done on my PC since I last checked is to launch and then exit out of the new MS Flight Simulator.

    No idea if that indeed could be related but will do some testing. Does feel like a true long-shot though.
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  8. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #8

    Just a hunch but I suggest
    1 Remove the weird one again in the same way as before,
    2 Check the properties of the TS task that the automatic schedule creates in case it has not been cleaned up
    Task scheduler
    Task scheduler library
    Microsoft
    Windows
    Defrag
    ScheduledDefrag
    Actions
    Denis
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  9. Posts : 107
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Interestingly enough, after some testing I can confirm what is really causing this weirdness indeed is the new Microsoft Flight Simulator.

    Fact is, at a specific moment as will be shown below, it will not add only one weird looking volume to the Optimize Drives list but even two.

    Check this out!

    Before launching MSFS (all good)

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-optimize-drives-before-launching-msfs.jpg

    With MSFS running (2 weird looking volumes added to the list)

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-optimize-drives-msfs-running.jpg

    After MSFS has been closed (one of the weird looking volumes still left in the list)

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-optimize-drives-after-closing-msfs.jpg

    After rebooting the PC (all back to normal with only proper drives seen in the list)

    Strange looking volume in the Optimize Drives (Defrag) screen-optimize-drives-after-pc-reboot.jpg
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  10. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #10

    I'm glad you have found the cause. I, meanwhile, have found that I had misread my notes on the subject. Sorry.

    I missed out MountVol commands in my post #4. That is what gets you the drive [volume] GUIDs as opposed to the physical disk GUIDs reported by DiskPart.

    MountVol C:\ /L
    MountVol D:\ /L
    MountVol E:\ /L
    MountVol F:\ /L
    MountVol G:\ /L

    And I don't think that the DiskPart Detail partition results actually produce anything useful.

    Denis
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