auslogics disk defrag

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  1. Posts : 956
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    Auslogics disk defrag


    As most of you probably know, it's not really a good idea to defrag your ssd, but auslogics offers an option to defrag your ssd with some algorithms they made, to optimize your ssd with. What do you guys think about this, has anyone tested it and if so, what were your results?

    Solved, i went with auslogics disk defrag, for better ssd optimization.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 15 Apr 2021 at 23:14.
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  2. Posts : 2,766
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    I think it is not needed and you may shorten your SSD lifespam. Besides, I have tried it. It was slow and we don't really know what's doing.
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  3. Posts : 11,640
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    Cerawy said:
    ... its not really a good idea to defrag your ssd ...
    You ought either to provide proof of that statement or to retract it.

    Left in its default settings, Windows defrags SSDs monthly - if you have left the SSD to be 'optimised' weekly by the Defragmenter then it actually trims & defrags monthly. This info is in defrag - Microsoft Docs under the sub-heading 'Scheduled task'
    - SSD defrag is also discussed in The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD - Scott Hanselman
    -The situation is further complicated by the fact that, since Windows Vista & 7, Windows defragmentation has not bothered moving around blocks of 64MB or greater. So your files can remain fragmented to that extent. MS experimented and decided that its old practice of fully defragmenting files gained no benefit once lumps of 64MB were consolidated. Disk Defragmentation Background and Engineering the Windows 7 Improvements - Microsoft Docs
    - You might also enjoy reading Trim and SSD Performance - Why is it Important - Crucial
    - If you ever need to check that Trim is enabled, use Enable or Disable TRIM Support for Solid State Drives - TenForumsTutorials

    The defrag & trim records are kept in Event viewer, Application log, Sources - Defrag, Defrag-Core and, as lxo7 post in TenForums illustrates, they can be accessed through PowerShell as well.
    - I have never managed to catch a record of anything other than trimming taking place but others have seen SSD defrag happening [shown in that lxo7 post]

    Denis
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  4. Posts : 956
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    Try3 said:
    You ought either to provide proof of that statement or to retract it.
    Denis
    Why You Shouldn't Defragment a Solid State Hard Drive.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 18 Mar 2021 at 03:35.
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  5. Posts : 11,640
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
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    Cerawy said:
    Why You Shouldn't Defragment a Solid State Hard Drive
    That 2011 article makes no attempt to provide supporting evidence and consists of no more than a string of false statements.

    The links I posted contain logical arguments and do refer to supporting evidence. Those articles provide you with a sound basis for making your decision about staying with MS defrag or moving to auslogics.

    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 1,564
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    Additionally to that IMHO on windows 10 there is only one general disk servicing/management system to use and that is the one provided on 10
    Many third party ones have a history of causing problems
    They move what the defragger/optimizer considers to be files/fragments to another part of the drive, resulting in Windows - maintenance/updates then not finding those moved files

    Windows 10 stores parts of the file system required for updates etc and other maintenance procedures in locations on the drive not sometimes recognised by these 3rd party disk maintenance programs

    Sometimes when such data is moved it results in errors at a future date.

    I have no idea what actual procedures of the special algorithms of Auslogics uses to optimize SSD drives.
    Probably nothing special
    Technical Support for Disk Defrag
    SSD optimization uses special algorithms that safely optimize your drive and help extend its service life
    not available on the free version.

    but as above I would not use any third party such app on 10.
    IF you are thinking of using it
    I suggest you read this first
    Do I Need to “Optimize” My SSD with Third-Party Software?

    3 and 4th para under heading
    Other Programs Consolidate Free Space
    Last edited by Macboatmaster; 23 Jul 2020 at 10:50.
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  7. Posts : 956
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    I just ran auslogics a couple of times. It feels like my computer is a bit more snappy than previously. I went with one of these older versions though, since the option to defrag the ssd is a paid only feature, in the latest version of the program.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 15 Apr 2021 at 23:13.
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  8. Posts : 5,200
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    Cerawy said:
    auslogics offers an option to defrag your ssd with some algorithms they made to optimize your ssd.
    Just bad wording. It most likely involves trim and typical SSD optimizations, like disabling Superfetch.

    I prefer to use SSD manufacturer's utility to do that.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails auslogics disk defrag-adata-ssd-toolbox_4.png  
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  9. Posts : 2,316
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    Very out of date articles ignoring the internal SSD controller and the physics of the memory cells themselves, SSD developments in recent years, well that clears it all up...

    I would be more worried about the impact of internal temperatures on the performance of an SSD rather than the trivialities of different Disc 'Optimisers'.
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  10. Posts : 1,564
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    Cerawy
    i went with one of the older versions though, since the option to defrag the ssd is a paid only feature in the latest version of the program
    I pointed that out to you in my post 6
    I said
    SSD optimization uses special algorithms that safely optimize your drive and help extend its service life
    not available on the free version.
    I agree with Helmut, as I said see the link
    but as above I would not use any third party such app on 10.
    IF you are thinking of using it
    I suggest you read this first
    Do I Need to “Optimize” My SSD with Third-Party Software?

    3 and 4th para under heading
    Other Programs Consolidate Free Space
    which if you read it says this
    However, there’s another catch here: The drive controller itself handles the mapping of physical cells on the SSD to logical sectors presented to the operating system. Only the SSD controller really knows where the cells are located. It’s possible that the drive might present logical sectors to the operating system that may be next to each other for the operating system’s purposes, but far away from each other on the actual physical SSD. For this reason, using any sort of software program to consolidate free space is likely a bad idea — the program doesn’t really know what’s going on behind the SSD controller.
    That all said, the decision is yours it your computer.
    All the advice was that the program was not needed, and indeed IMHO likely to cause problems , but you decided to use it.
    I hope it does not produce problems for you
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