My laptop is slow after power on.

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  1. Posts : 857
    windows 10
       #61

    I think your issue is related to your disk;

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    When I look at the boot trace, I see a lot of disk activities, most of them is due to the prefetching activities.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-capture1.png

    The prefetch happens when the OS try to predict what are the next data needed to be read and so it caches them in the memory. this mechanism is intended to speed up the I/O on mechanical disks (HDD).

    Sometimes this mechanism doesn't work well and need to be fixed;

    try to run this command to fixe it;

    xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot

    this reboots Windows several times, does a defrag and trains the prefetcher again. Be aware that procedure may take a long time to complete.

    I assume your disk hasn't physical issues (bad sectors or sata cable connection issues...). I prefere that you use hdsentinel to check your disk health.

    if the above doesn't work you can disable the prefetcher:

    My laptop is slow after power on.-image.png

    Disable the Sysmain service.

    If you want to definitely solve your performance issue, buy an SSD disk.

    Hope this will help.
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  2. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #62

    einstein1969, since the beginning of the thread we found out that your disk is slow and you have a lot of startup programs, applications and services.
    You're trying to "take milk out of a stone"
    The real solution is a SSD. As I already wrote, you can add a small SSD and a caddy to replace the ODD (~US$30) or replace the HDD with a SSD (US$60 to US$100, depending on the size).
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  3. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #63

    Megahertz said:
    einstein1969, since the beginning of the thread we found out that your disk is slow and you have a lot of startup programs, applications and services.
    You're trying to "take milk out of a stone"
    The real solution is a SSD. As I already wrote, you can add a small SSD and a caddy to replace the ODD (~US$30) or replace the HDD with a SSD (US$60 to US$100, depending on the size).
    I am used to extracting water from the desert :) .
    However a problem is certainly the slow disk.

    But as I said before they are not able to assemble the components you say and I will need another 75 of labor.

    In addition, my Grandson has an SSD disk and the Win 10 system becomes operational after about 3 minutes.

    I have optimized, not completely, the disk by moving the MFT and all the files involved at the beginning of the disk and I arrived at 4 minutes.

    I mean, I went down about 90 seconds. Which is no small thing.

    Now I should disable the SYSMAN service and make a script that automatically starts it periodically at times that don't bother me.

    I don't know if there is someone who can help me with this.

    But a solution to my problem could be the use of programs that delay the startup of the various components.

    This is the last boot that I monitored before doing the optimization with xbootmgr.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

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    zinou said:
    I think your issue is related to your disk;

    My laptop is slow after power on.-capture.png

    When I look at the boot trace, I see a lot of disk activities, most of them is due to the prefetching activities.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-capture1.png

    The prefetch happens when the OS try to predict what are the next data needed to be read and so it caches them in the memory. this mechanism is intended to speed up the I/O on mechanical disks (HDD).

    Sometimes this mechanism doesn't work well and need to be fixed;

    try to run this command to fixe it;

    xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot

    this reboots Windows several times, does a defrag and trains the prefetcher again. Be aware that procedure may take a long time to complete.

    I assume your disk hasn't physical issues (bad sectors or sata cable connection issues...). I prefere that you use hdsentinel to check your disk health.

    if the above doesn't work you can disable the prefetcher:

    My laptop is slow after power on.-image.png

    Disable the Sysmain service.

    If you want to definitely solve your performance issue, buy an SSD disk.

    Hope this will help.
    Hello and thanks!
    I had to do the procedure twice because the first time it gave me an error in the end.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-failed-defrag.png

    Unfortunately I had already optimized the disk and already tried to clean the prefecth and I didn't expect many improvements.

    However after the treatment which lasted about 13 hours or over, the result is that it takes the same time as before, that is 5:31 min.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-boot.png

    The optimization that I did takes me 4:01 minutes.

    Can you help me make an automatic script to start sysmain?

    EDIT: The sentinell'out

    My laptop is slow after power on.-sentinell.png
    Last edited by einstein1969; 02 Aug 2020 at 08:56.
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  4. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #64

    Someone is charging 75 € of labor to change a laptop drive?
    It's so easy and there are many Youtube videos explaining how. It doesn't take 20min.
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  5. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #65

    Megahertz said:
    Someone is charging 75 € of labor to change a laptop drive?
    It's so easy and there are many Youtube videos explaining how. It doesn't take 20min.
    I heard from my trusted store and it takes € 75 to disassemble, reassemble, copy the operating system to the new SSD. If you help me find everything needed to make the transition from the HDD to the SSD operating system it costs me only € 40.
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  6. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #66

    How much space is used on your current HDD?
    Do you have a External HDD with free space bigger than space is used on your current HDD?
    Do you have a USB drive (>2G) that can be formatted?
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  7. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #67

    Space is limited but maybe something can be done

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    This is a USB key formatted in FAT32 (I make with rufus for install)

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

    This is a USB key make after install for recovery

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

    Anyway, I remember very little how I made them, I think it's like I said above
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  8. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #68

    Your C: partition has 700G on it and your external disk (Maxtor) only has 252G free, so you can't make a disk image and save on the external disk.
    You need 750G free space to store a disk image and then transfer to a SSD.
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  9. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #69

    I am compressing the disc

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    if I buy a 240GB SSD do I have to have the maximum C partition of 180-220GB?

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    Last edited by einstein1969; 09 Aug 2020 at 02:45.
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  10. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #70

    As I wrote before, you don't need a SSD bigger than 120G as it will be used for Windows and programs and the HDD will be used for data.
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