My laptop is slow after power on.

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  1. Posts : 3,966
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       #41

    Good job einstein1969,
    Can't understand why you have such a slow boot. Disk seems to be OK, SFC reports OK and a clean boot is still very slow.
    Let me ask one more test. It's a disk benchmark.
    Download, extract and run CrystalDiskMark It's a portable, don't need to be installed.
    Post the results.
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  2. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
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       #42

    This is the result:

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png
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  3. Posts : 3,966
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       #43

    A little lower than normal for a Laptop HDD but doesn't explain the 6 minutes.
    A SSD can be 550 /400 (R/W).
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  4. Posts : 1,806
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #44

    einstein1969 said:
    The previous boot (original/normal) time I wrote it above.

    I was interested to know what the typical boot time was before this problem existed. I understand few people would recall this detail in seconds but you might remember it once booted faster and the duration was less than 2 minutes or something else.

    einstein1969 said:
    The problem now is that I have disabled many things I need.
    First of all, the test says that mcafee is not a problem and I can reinstall it. But I will do it in the end when we solve the problem.

    You can fix any of these items later and after correcting your boot problem. I agree that it's a great idea to leave McAfee uninstalled. Every single unnecessary app that adds even a slight delay to the boot will add up and contribute to adding more difficulty to finding a solution.

    einstein1969 said:
    I collected data with process monitor, but I don't know what to do. I have to attach the files *.PML?
    after applying a filter ("duration" "more than" "5s"), i find myself in processmonitor this list long enough but i don't know what to do.

    100% memory has nothing to do with boot. It has never happened to me before. The problem made me maybe because I suspended a game but for the moment I have no memory problems.

    Solved this slow boot problem I will move on to that problem if it is necessary.

    The fact that I reduced the boot time from 6:40 to 5:25 is not a solution because I have disabled the features necessary for me.

    Can you help me understand how to go on?

    I've reviewed your screenshots from Process Monitor and observed a few items of interest. Nice job on the report, thanks.


    I understand that we use many apps, I'm just not convinced they all require to start with Windows. If you use Skype almost every second you're using the PC OK, otherwise it's just slowing your boot time and for this diagnostic testing its best to not be starting with Windows. Many use OneDrive to sync data to cloud storage, and maybe you want this service as protection.

    While you're working to reduce your boot time it would be most prudent to disable ALL unnecessary apps from starting with Windows. I feel like I'm repeating myself with this statement.


    See OneDrive & Skype below.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725a-onedrive-skype.jpg


    I'm apologize for not asking sooner but have you checked for driver and bios updates from your laptop manufacturers website?


    Conexant seems to be busy at the start although it may not be an issue. Google update can likely be disabled in the start tab in task manager. The required updates will most likely happen any time you launch the service, therefore doesn't require to start with Windows. The same goes for browser updates, most check for updates when launched and just cause boot delay.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725b-conexant-google-update.jpg


    Windows location service and Edge updates.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725c-conexant-win-loc-edge-update.jpg


    Again, is it necessary to have Stardock Fences loaded at boot time? For this test it would be better to not have it in the startup.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725d-stardock-fences.jpg


    You will observe that the darker and/or longer green bars are depicting longer run times, best to review and correct if possible.
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  5. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
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       #45

    W10 Tweaker said:
    I was interested to know what the typical boot time was before this problem existed. I understand few people would recall this detail in seconds but you might remember it once booted faster and the duration was less than 2 minutes or something else.




    You can fix any of these items later and after correcting your boot problem. I agree that it's a great idea to leave McAfee uninstalled. Every single unnecessary app that adds even a slight delay to the boot will add up and contribute to adding more difficulty to finding a solution.




    I've reviewed your screenshots from Process Monitor and observed a few items of interest. Nice job on the report, thanks.


    I understand that we use many apps, I'm just not convinced they all require to start with Windows. If you use Skype almost every second you're using the PC OK, otherwise it's just slowing your boot time and for this diagnostic testing its best to not be starting with Windows. Many use OneDrive to sync data to cloud storage, and maybe you want this service as protection.

    While you're working to reduce your boot time it would be most prudent to disable ALL unnecessary apps from starting with Windows. I feel like I'm repeating myself with this statement.


    See OneDrive & Skype below.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725a-onedrive-skype.jpg


    I'm apologize for not asking sooner but have you checked for driver and bios updates from your laptop manufacturers website?


    Conexant seems to be busy at the start although it may not be an issue. Google update can likely be disabled in the start tab in task manager. The required updates will most likely happen any time you launch the service, therefore doesn't require to start with Windows. The same goes for browser updates, most check for updates when launched and just cause boot delay.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725b-conexant-google-update.jpg


    Windows location service and Edge updates.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725c-conexant-win-loc-edge-update.jpg


    Again, is it necessary to have Stardock Fences loaded at boot time? For this test it would be better to not have it in the startup.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0725d-stardock-fences.jpg


    You will observe that the darker and/or longer green bars are depicting longer run times, best to review and correct if possible.
    I don't remember the exact boot time but as soon as I logged in the PC was ready to work, now several minutes pass.

    I have updated the LAN driver but I am not using LAN. I have installed "ASUS Device Activation". Updated wlan driver. Updated bluetooth driver. Chipset / graphics are downgraded to the recommended version.
    Other drivers are updated.

    After a reboot nothing is changed, the time is about 5:20

    There is another problem: sysmain is started and the boot time is gone up to 9 minutes.!!!!!
    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png
    My laptop is slow after power on.-sysmain.png

    I could read to the point where you talk about onedrive and skype.

    What should I do with these?

    I have disabled both skype and onedrive from startup.

    What else should I do? (I use onedrive for backup and skype purpose for incoming calls / chat messages)

    in startup I have nothing except fences
    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

    - - - Updated - - -

    I have disabled "Fences" and redo test.

    The time now is 5:15 but sysmain is running until 10 min.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

    My laptop is slow after power on.-sysmain.png

    For google update I can't find an entry in the startup of task manager. For "edge" where is it disabled?

    Also remember, I don't want to do updates by hand.

    For the others you have to help me out because I don't know how to disable.

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    Megahertz said:
    A little lower than normal for a Laptop HDD but doesn't explain the 6 minutes.
    A SSD can be 550 /400 (R/W).
    It is a bit low but maybe the reason is that I have a single partition.

    I do the defrag daily but I haven't moved the big files in the end. Now I do it, it will take a few days because I use defraggler and it is very slow.

    If you know a faster defrag in moving files to the end of the disk let me know.

    Also I don't know if I can activate this option to increase the write performance.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png
    Last edited by einstein1969; 26 Jul 2020 at 02:07.
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  6. Posts : 1,806
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #46

    Look in the Task Scheduler to find apps that are starting without an entry in the startup tab of Task Manager.

    This is most likely where you will find many apps that update themselves at every start of Windows or every login by default. I'll post pics and examples when I'm next at my PC.

    Remember, most of these adjustments don't have to be permanent, you just want to reduce the boot time to resolve delays and prove there's no faults or corruption.

    Once you can have your PC boot within a reasonable amount of time, you will know there are no outstanding faults contributing to a delayed boot time.

    Adding items to the startup tab or Task Scheduler afterwards is easy, don't allow that to cause concern.
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  7. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
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       #47

    What should I do?

    My laptop is slow after power on.-clipboard.png

    Can you explain in detail which ones and how to disable them?
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  8. Posts : 3,966
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #48

    einstein1969 said:

    It is a bit low but maybe the reason is that I have a single partition.

    The number of partitions doesn't speed up the HDD.
    The cache only seed up the wright operation. Leave as it is.

    Most of you solution is a SSD. As your HDD is slow, a SSD will be 7.5 times faster. (550/72)
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  9. Posts : 1,806
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #49

    Megahertz said:
    The number of partitions doesn't speed up the HDD.
    The cache only seed up the wright operation. Leave as it is.
    Most of you solution is a SSD. As your HDD is slow, a SSD will be 7.5 times faster. (550/72)

    While I completely agree that an SSD will magically transform this PC with reduced boot time and speed in launching apps, the OP is convinced that his boot time was much faster sometime in the recent past.

    A 5 minute plus boot does sound excessive for that PC even with a slow HDD, don't you agree?
    Last edited by W10 Tweaker; 26 Jul 2020 at 09:04.
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  10. Posts : 1,806
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       #50

    einstein1969 said:
    What should I do?
    Can you explain in detail which ones and how to disable them?

    Review the results from Process Monitor and make notes on any process with a deep green colored bar that are not specifically related to Microsoft Windows. If you're not certain about a process function, ask google. Keep in mind that not all Microsoft processes get a free pass. OneDrive and Edge updates come to mind.

    This incident had me reviewing everything in my Task Scheduler again (I check it periodically) and I found apps that update at every startup of windows, every login of a user and then repeat every hour. That just makes no sense to me unless I had endless resources, a blazing fast CPU and a fibre connection for internet access.

    Another user may think differently but I fixed all these excessive updating apps. I set many update functions to once per day and others to once per week and some to once per month. I have Google set to once per day.


    Double-click the line in Task Scheduler to launch a properties dialogue box and select the triggers tab. You can take a screen capture if you want to return everything back to original settings after you finish or at least keep a record of the changes you've made.

    My laptop is slow after power on.-0726-task-trigger.jpg


    Select the trigger and delete or click edit to make changes.


    My laptop is slow after power on.-0726-edit-trigger.jpg


    If you choose Weekly or Monthly on this window, the OK button will remain grayed out until you complete selection of all of the parameters such as specific days of the week or months of the year.
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