My laptop is slow after power on.

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  1. Posts : 47
    Win 10 64
       #31

    einstein1969 said:
    Hello everyone, I have the usual problem that has bored me for many years.

    Every time I change the operating system for a while it goes well then it always slows down.
    It bothers me in the boot phase. Many minutes pass before it is operational.

    Is it possible that there is no simple solution?
    I agree an SSD would help boot faster than an HDD but how long has your OS been on Win 10? I don't know about everyone else here but after a few years or personally I like to do a fresh install of Windows each year no matter the OS. Never heard of anyone PC getting faster or remaining the same over time. Since you have Win 10 and if its been a few years since you have had Win 10 installed id use, "Reset this PC" In System>Update & Security>Recovery>Reset this PC or better yet fresh OS install before buying an SSD.
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  2. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
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       #32

    Megahertz said:
    einstein1969, on MSConfig, did you disabled startup programs (Avvio)? How many startup programs you have?

    On a clean boot, how long did it take to boot?
    On msconfig you can see on post #28.

    I have disabled all startup (avvio) programs except fences (A program for having virtual desktops and organizing icons that I cannot disable).

    Then have disabled all not windows services.

    Then I reboot. The pc took about 5 minutes (clean boot). Before boot was 6 minutes or more.

    The only programs that remained active are "AdwCleaner" (see post #24) and Mcafee (although I disabled his services in msconfig, after the restart, I found them active).

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    W10 Tweaker said:
    Thanks for the reply.

    When performing a clean boot as per Brink's tutorial, the whole point of the test is to disable all non-microsoft apps including any anti-virus programs such as McAfee. I understand you may feel the need to keep this program active but not disabling any non-microsoft application defeats the entire purpose of this diagnostic test.

    Some application or applications are crippling your PC with excessive disk usage, the first items to disable for testing is almost always any third-party apps. McAfee is also a highly suspect application for resource usage. I personally have used it many times over the past 30 years and won't ever install it again because I believe it to be problematic, more often than not.

    You may be using OneDrive, however; it most likely does not require to be started with Windows, especially if you're not using to sync to the cloud.

    I would suggest you follow the tutorial, disable all non-microsoft applications including McAfee and then examine the disk usage and restart time for Windows. After disabling all non-microsoft apps and before before the restart, confirm that Windows Defender is enabled.

    Windows Defender will protect your system while you run this test and afterwards you can enable McAfee again. Many users do not use a third-party anti-virus and manage to stay safe and secure.

    How to Turn On or Off Microsoft Defender Antivirus in Windows 10
    I am hanging myself with posts.

    I put some things in post # 20 (programs starting before clean boot) and in post # 28 (programs starting after clean boot).

    Before the clean boot I removed the 709 adware.

    It seems to me that I am using synchronization with the onedrive cluod so I will have to reactivate it.

    As for windows defender I have had a bad experience. Although it is faster than macafee it is not (or was not) as effective. The management of ramsomware in previous versions was not effective and I got three viruses.

    In the past I have had a bad opinion of Mcafee like you but in 2017 I bought a pc with Mcfee installed and I found myself very well. (When I uninstalled it for a need similar to this I got the viruses I said above).

    However for test I try to disable it(Mcafee).

    Can you tell me how to disable mcafee without uninstalling it (the reinstallation procedure is long and tedious)?

    EDIT: In the post #22 I was suggested to install adwcleaner but I can no longer disable it (even if the clean boot procedure remains active at boot) see post # 24

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    XXLMandalorian said:
    I agree an SSD would help boot faster than an HDD but how long has your OS been on Win 10? I don't know about everyone else here but after a few years or personally I like to do a fresh install of Windows each year no matter the OS. Never heard of anyone PC getting faster or remaining the same over time. Since you have Win 10 and if its been a few years since you have had Win 10 installed id use, "Reset this PC" In System>Update & Security>Recovery>Reset this PC or better yet fresh OS install before buying an SSD.
    I reinstalled the operating system about 3-4 months ago
    Last edited by einstein1969; 21 Jul 2020 at 16:52. Reason: added information
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  3. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #33

    If you disabled all non MS services and all startup programs but Mcafee, and it took 5 minutes to boot, everything points to Mcafee.
    Antivirus, like most security programs, you can't disable on MSConfig. Only way I found was to uninstall.

    Open Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features and uninstall adwcleaner and superantispyware.
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  4. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #34

    Megahertz said:
    If you disabled all non MS services and all startup programs but Mcafee, and it took 5 minutes to boot, everything points to Mcafee.
    Antivirus, like most security programs, you can't disable on MSConfig. Only way I found was to uninstall.

    Open Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features and uninstall adwcleaner and superantispyware.
    There is no adwcleaner in the Control Panel-Programs and Features. I don't know how to uninstall it. SuperAntispyware I had already uninstalled.

    I point out that when I installed windows and mcafee the system was very fast.

    Now wait if someone can advise me how to disable it without uninstalling Mcafee.
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  5. Posts : 3,959
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #35

    My adwcleaner_8.0.6.exe did not install.

    By googling I found this: Open AdwCleaner and click on File from Menu bar, there is the option for Uninstall in drop down menu..

    How to disable McAfee Security Center
    Last edited by Megahertz; 22 Jul 2020 at 09:51.
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  6. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #36

    I was able to uninstall adwcleaner (I had to run it as admin).

    Now I have the test without mcafee but I can't do it immediately (I can't restart).

    In a few days I will let you know.

    For now, thank you very much
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  7. Posts : 1,806
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #37

    einstein1969 said:
    I was able to uninstall adwcleaner (I had to run it as admin).
    Now I have the test without mcafee but I can't do it immediately (I can't restart).
    In a few days I will let you know.
    For now, thank you very much

    After disabling all non-microsoft applications during a clean boot (no exceptions for diagnostic test results to be valid), monitor disk and cpu activity to approximate boot time duration. If the boot time is still excessive you could investigate further using Process Monitor from Sysinternals.com .

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-ca/sysinternals/


    Browse this link to learn how to configure Process Monitor to capture processes during the boot phase. This will definitively confirm what happens during Windows boot and direct you to the process or processes delaying the boot phase.

    Using Process Monitor to Solve a Slow Boot Problems | Windows OS Hub


    Keep in mind that for the Process Monitor test results to be useful while capturing the boot processes, you should allow Process Monitor to run for the entire boot phase and not too much longer. I'd suggest again monitoring cpu and disk usage to approximate how long the boot capture test should run. This is all explained in the above link.

    If any part of these tests are confusing or not very obvious, please ask questions. I'm confident that many advanced users here are quite familiar with these tests and can assist you further if necessary. Cheers,

    Michael
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  8. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #38

    I have measured the boot time.

    Normal/original (before clean boot) : 6:40 min
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    Clean boot except McAfee: 5 min
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    Then I have disabled McAfee.
    Clean boot without Windows Defender & McAfee(Disabled): 4:45
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    Then I have disinstalled McAfee because the disabling leave some processes.

    clean boot with Window Defender only : 5:25
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    Last edited by einstein1969; 25 Jul 2020 at 07:40.
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  9. Posts : 1,806
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #39

    Hi einstein1969, good job testing and reporting. I would expect your PC to boot in less time. I would have guessed about 1.5 minutes +/-. Do you recall the previous typical boot time.

    Please consider running the boot process capture test with Process Monitor as described above.

    This test will show where exactly this boot time is being used and how it might be corrected to boot faster.

    I just noticed you posted in another thread about the memory usage at 100%. I'd say that could be part of your slow boot and directly related to this fault. Does this PC show any other irregularities you haven't mentioned?
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  10. Posts : 190
    Window 10 Home 20H2 x64 (build SO 19042.1052)
    Thread Starter
       #40

    The previous boot (original/normal) time I wrote it above.

    The problem now is that I have disabled many things I need.

    First of all, the test says that mcafee is not a problem and I can reinstall it. But I will do it in the end when we solve the problem.

    I collected data with process monitor, but I don't know what to do. I have to attach the files *.PML?
    after applying a filter ("duration" "more than" "5s"), i find myself in processmonitor this list long enough but i don't know what to do.
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    and processes tree:
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    100% memory has nothing to do with boot. It has never happened to me before. The problem made me maybe because I suspended a game but for the moment I have no memory problems.

    Solved this slow boot problem I will move on to that problem if it is necessary.

    The fact that I reduced the boot time from 6:40 to 5:25 is not a solution because I have disabled the features necessary for me.

    Can you help me understand how to go on?
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