doing a dism restorehealth every month

sandila · 18 Jun 2020

I am using Windows 10 home edition.1909 OS build 18363.900 each month or after 3 months or so I am forced to do

Code:

dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup 
 dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

my laptop occasionally becomes very slow for some unknown reason.
Like I face challenges when Microsoft Office starts loading it takes lot of times to open files.
Working with VMware virtual machines worth 500 Gb could be slow which is understandable.
But system boots very slow that is not understandable.
Usually when I run these commands vmware breaks and I have to re install vmware.Apart from that there has not been any other problem.
When I run these two dism commands things come back to normal and system is able to restore its health.
I want to know why is this happening. What is causing my laptop to be slow and why I need to regularly keep executing those 2 dism commands.

dalchina · 18 Jun 2020

When it is slow, how much free space do you have on C: ?

What does your task manager show then? - excessive resource usage? Which? Which process is using the resource?

Have you changed page file settings from default?

But system boots very slowly

Does this always happen? How long does it take to boot to the lock screen?

What type of disk do you have?

This appears to be a recent laptop.

Bree · 18 Jun 2020

sandila said:

I am using Windows 10 home edition.1909 OS build 18363.900 each month or after 3 months or so I am forced to do

Code:

dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup 
 dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

....When I run these two dism commands things come back to normal and system is able to restore its health.
I want to know why is this happening. What is causing my laptop to be slow and why I need to regularly keep executing those 2 dism commands.

The first of those two commands is just routine housekeeping, cleaning up outdated windows updates. I routinely do so after each month's new cumulative update. The same process can be performed with Disk Clean-up's 'clean up system files' or Settings > System > Storage, show more categories and click on 'System & reserved'.

If you leave it for three months before cleaning up then there would have been at least three cumulative updates and quite a lot to clean up.

That doesn't necessarily explain why your system slows down though. Maybe you are running out of free space on your C: drive? Perhaps you should start using Disk Clean-up regularly, or turn on Storage sense.

Open and Use Disk Cleanup in Windows 10
Turn On or Off Storage Sense Automatically Free Up Space in Windows 10

One command you didn't mention could well help, its SFC /SCANNOW

sandila · 18 Jun 2020

yes I have to use

Code:

sfc /scannow

also. The laptop is Hp 15 bs0xx.
I have 10 Gb free space these days. Only recently I deleted Matlab setup which freed 19 Gb.But that was not installed on this laptop. I mostly used matlab in Windows inside Vmware. Taskmanager I have stopped checking.
HP Laptop 15-bs0xx, hard disk is 5400 RPM that is one reason for every thing to be slow.https://www.tenforums.com/newreply.p...eply&p=1856454
But despite that for normal working also some times I need to execute dism and sfc commands.
But other than that I don't know what happens. I am not able to understand booting time
I used a timer in my mobile here are some statistics.
It took 2:16 mm:ss to shutdown.
Then I powered on
Intial 40 seconds POST test (an HP icon and some round round circles)
Now a blue screen of windows 10 powering on comes which says please wait.
after 1 minute 15 second I see Username and welcome message,
then after 4 minutes 54 seconds I see desktop but still the application icons on desktop are not there.
Now after 5 minutes 30 seconds all icons on desktop are there but still I can not use the start menu.
Now I wait and at 6 minutes 30 seconds I can use with Window key to open the start menu.
Then from 6 minutes 50 seconds after booting I can use the laptop.

I also tried after this boot opening a Microsoft word document, I double clicked on document for initial 3 minutes nothing happened.Now I again double clicked the same document after 2 minutes the document opened.
And now I double clicked Microsoft edge after 50 seconds I can use it.

So this is the time it takes to boot and become system usable approximately 8 minutes.

Here is a screenshot of task manager immediately after booting.

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The specifications of hardware are

HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx; Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Single Language (64-bit) Microsoft Windows 10 Home Single Language (64-bit) Model: HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx: HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx: Processor: Intel Core i5-7200U @ 2.69 GHz 1 processor, 2 cores, 4 threads Intel Core i5-7200U @ 2.69 GHz 1 processor, 2 cores, 4 threads Processor ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model

HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx vs HP HP Laptop 15-bs0xx
- Geekbench Browser

12 GB RAM
1 TB 5400 rpm hard disk

There are a lot of files output from TreeSize and Wiztree.

doing a dism restorehealth every month-annotation-2020-06-19-041349.jpg

dalchina · 19 Jun 2020

Hi, just considering your boot time:

then after 4 minutes 54 seconds I see desktop but still the application icons on desktop are not there.
Now after 5 minutes 30 seconds all icons on desktop are there but still I can not use the start menu.
Now I wait and at 6 minutes 30 seconds I can use with Window key to open the start menu.

- please try a clean boot (tutorial or Google if unsure how) and advise the comparative times.

The time to the lock/login screen is unexceptional. I would guess the rather slow time to the machine becoming available is due to startups, and using a HDD.

(Even if you use a SSD it can take some time for startups to load).

Like I face challenges when Microsoft Office starts loading it takes lot of times to open files.

When this is happening, pleaes capture a screenshot of your task manager- choose appropriate views to illustrate what you observe. Post screenshots thus (wait a moment before clicking the upload button):

doing a dism restorehealth every month-screenshot-copy1.png

Please post the result of this:
Get Windows Experience Index (WEI) Score in Windows 10

Also run a disk check:
HD Tune v2.55 (free) e.g. from softpedia.com - Health and Error scan tabs.
If ok, also run
chkdsk c: /scan
from an admin command or Powershell prompt.

sandila · 19 Jun 2020

There was no difference of boot time after a clean boot also. No noticeable difference.

Code:

C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat formal
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running the Formal Assessment
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname DWM -time 10 -fbc 10 -disp off -normalw 1 -alphaw 2 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock'
> Assessing Desktop Graphics Performance
> Run Time 00:00:13.77
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Batch Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.23
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Assessing DirectX Alpha blend Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.28
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX Texture load Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.25
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Assessing DirectX ALU Performance
> Run Time 00:00:00.34
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Batch -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(10) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Alpha -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 300 -batchcnt C(75) -objs C(26) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1)'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname Tex -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -texshader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(4) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.02
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname ALU -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 500 -batchcnt C(125) -objs C(20) -noalpha -alushader -totaltex 10 -texpobj C(1) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomF4 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 150;200;241 -batchcnt C(50);C(200);C(300) -objs C(12);C(26);C(45) -noalpha -geomf4shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname GeomV8 -time 7 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75;100;120 -batchcnt C(25);C(100);C(150) -objs C(8);C(17);C(29) -noalpha -geomv8shader -texpobj C(0) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -tierframes 60 -tiertime 1'
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: WinSAT Direct3D Assessment '-dx10  -aname CBuffer -time 5 -fbc 10 -disp off -animate 10 -width 1280 -height 1024 -totalobj 75 -batchcnt C(25) -objs C(8) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -texpobj C(1) -cbuffershader -cbufa 2 -cbuff 5 -cbufp 6'
> Run Time 00:00:00.02
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          219.79 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        1488.48 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        564.51 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                665.67 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  85.23 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                410.09 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                230.38 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        304.40 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           16982.32 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             42.00 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                42.00 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         42.00 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      7281.84 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      0.00000 s
> Dshow Video Decode Time                      0.00000 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.00000 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   86.54 MB/s          6.3
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.40 MB/s          3.8
> Total Run Time 00:00:18.63

Results of WEI score
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Get-CimInstance Win32_WinSat

Code:

CPUScore              : 8.6
D3DScore              : 9.9
DiskScore             : 5.9
GraphicsScore         : 5.8
MemoryScore           : 8.6
TimeTaken             : MostRecentAssessment
WinSATAssessmentState : 1
WinSPRLevel           : 5.8
PSComputerName        :

Paul Black · 19 Jun 2020

Hello @sandila,

sandila said:

Here is a screenshot of task manager immediately after booting.

Your CPU usage is showing 65%!

Can you sort the CPU column so that it goes from highest to lowest and then post another screenshot please?

sandila · 19 Jun 2020

Paul Black · 19 Jun 2020

Hello @sandila,

As a test please perform the following . . .

[1] Goto Search.
[2] Type cmd.
[3] Right-click Command Prompt in the list.
[4] Select Run as Administrator.
[5] Type start msconfig and press <ENTER>.
[6] Click the Startup tab.
[7] Uncheck the IOBit init Application box.
[8] Restart.

See if that makes a difference!

You can easily reverse the above operation by Checking the IOBit init Application box to re-enable it.

I hope this helps!

dalchina · 19 Jun 2020

Please make sure you post a screenshot of your task manager a few minutes after logging in (when startups have been loaded).

It's inevitable there will be activity after logging in- that's not of interest.

The WEI scores look reasonable.

There was no difference of boot time after a clean boot also. No noticeable difference.

Please clarify- what is of interest here is how long after logging in activity settles to near zero- or put another way how quickly the PC becomes responsive after logging in, rather than differences in time booting to lock screen.