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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Aug 2015 #1

    Slow boot on Win10 compared to Win7


    Hello,

    Compared to my Win7 installation, my Win10 boots up way slower than Win7 ever did.
    Relevant hardware: 2600K@4.8, 8GB 1600/CL7 RAM, Samsung 840 SSD.
    Fresh installation has been done after the initial upgrade, all drivers seem to be OK.

    What I did was check the Event Viewer for boot performance, and it reports:
    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 47008ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2015‎-‎08‎-‎13T07:42:34.576341100Z
    and
    This application took longer than usual to start up, resulting in a performance degradation in the system startup process:
    File Name : svchost.exe
    Friendly Name : Host Process for Windows Services
    Version : 10.0.10240.16384 (th1.150709-1700)
    Total Time : 6261ms
    Degradation Time : 1261ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2015‎-‎08‎-‎13T07:42:34.576341100Z

    Now, the svchost.exe with its 6 seconds don't think that it's relevant.
    However 47seconds for the boot on the fast SSD and 4.8Ghz is ridiculous.

    It usually waits a bit before going into windows (I have it set to log in automatically), and then it comes into windows, where it loads couple of programs, including Kaspersky, but waits for the whole another batch of programs, when it then finalizes the boot.

    What can I do to troubleshoot any more? I am kinda out of ideas how to check what's blocking it.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  2. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 252
    windows 7
       13 Aug 2015 #2

    Slow it is.
    Its not just slow on boot [take a coffee break...] but shutdown, restart, find anything, click Explorer.
    I was hoping it was just the Tech Previews that were slower than vista.... but not so. the General release version is slower, if anything.

    quite frustrating. this is making 8.1 look like the most underrated OS in computing history. its like lightning compared to this

    Also I note that changing advanced sys properties to "Performance" mode had zero effect other than making things uglier. no change in stopwatch.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  3. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Aug 2015 #3

    Well, I don't see much difference between W7 and W10 when it comes to performance itself, except that the calculator needs 3x longer to start... I only have problems with boots and reboots.
    It's quite disappointing, and I really don't want to go "back" to W7.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  4. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 5
    Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
       13 Aug 2015 #4

    I am having the same issue. My pc on windows 7 boots up like in 15 seconds. Since upgrading and doing a clean install of Win 10 it takes 2-3 minutes and on a SSD. Ridiculous!!! I have rolled back to Win 7 and will wait till the issue is addressed. Its a shame as I really like the new features it brings to the table. Especially the virtual desk tops and Cortana.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 252
    windows 7
       13 Aug 2015 #5

    there are a lot of such remarks/complaints around the web.
    I spent another 45 min or so today tweaking everything I could think of from turning off display 'niceties' to making restore points then turning off Sys Protection, stopping Search Indexer, updating to better drivers [IRST, video], looking for system errors.
    One thing I notice is that what might have created a 'red' error in the past only seems to generate yellow warnings or even "information" entries in the system error events log. tracking some of these down to their Hardware ID's I see several that show, in events under Dev Manager/device/details/hw id - looking at "events" log get the message "additional installation required" . huh?
    web not much help on that. so, apparently there are devices that are "close enough" but not installed properly? isn't that new news?

    I guess next step is to turn on logging and try to get someone competent to go through line by line

    I also have not read an authoritative article on the impact the many Privacy settings have: many of these, most in fact, have device dependencies, so having them [so many] "on" must have a performance hit:
    Digging into and Understanding Windows 10s Privacy Settings
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  6. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 163
    Wds10 - OEM
       13 Aug 2015 #6

    When I upgraded from wds 8.1 to 10 .. the boot time was way slow ... and unbearable ... so I had to roll back to 8.1 ..
    I will try wds 10 again after SR1 ... coming soon ..
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Aug 2015 #7

    So much about the whole hype Windows 10 is faster than Windows 7, in every aspect. Oh well, it is stable enough for me not to reinstall everything from scratch, lets hope they manage to fix it so it really behaves better than Windows 7.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  8. Joined : Jan 2015
    Posts : 183
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       13 Aug 2015 #8

    Mine is about the same as when I had 7 (20 seconds on a bitlocker enabled drive):

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    Some hardware configurations and drivers aren't 10 ready yet, but fortunately mine works fine. Just one and only one issue: Windows store app crashes when opening after the computer resumes from sleep. Reopening after crash is always successful though.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 252
    windows 7
       15 Aug 2015 #9

    hmmmmm......


    theveterans you gave me a tip: so I go lookup the diags/boot/events and look at this mess:
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    whew... where do I start? with the RED ones, of course. First up is Cryptographic services - not exactly the kind of thing one would want to force "disable"...
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  10. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
       15 Aug 2015 #10

    Hmm, nothing suspicious here. Apparently when it takes longer to boot up, there is an entry as an "error". I don't know above which number is an error and below which number is a warning.

    My error looks like this:
    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 42248ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2015‎-‎08‎-‎14T04:03:34.575532200Z

    And immediately after that:
    Application of user policy caused a slow down in the system start up process:
    Name : PreShellInit
    Total Time : 2635ms
    Degradation Time : 2109ms
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2015‎-‎08‎-‎14T04:03:34.575532200Z

    Whatever that is...
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


 
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