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  1.    15 Aug 2015 #11
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    Windows 10 Home 64-bit

    I think that with driver updates and a Windows 10 Samsung Magician things will fly.
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  2.    15 Aug 2015 #12
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    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Optimized drivers might bring something to the table, yes, but even clean W10 installation is slower on boot than clean W7 installation. Samsung Magician doesn't do wonders though, I already had that in W7.
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  3.    15 Aug 2015 #13
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    10 (Free upgrade)

    Compared to my Win7 installation, my Win10 boots up way slower than Win7 ever did.
    Same for me. Windows is downloading and installing updates by the hour!
    The slow boot times (and shut down times) will get less and less as time goes on.

    You might want to also look at the Start Up list in Task manager and disable some of the rogue elements hiding in there!

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    Right click Start.
    Click Task Manager.
    Click the Startup tab.
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  4.    19 Aug 2015 #14
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    Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    I noticed one thing: when windows loads, it loads some services, usually network, Kaspersky, sound and all that basic stuff, then pauses for about 20sec, at which point the rest loads. It also the point where my external USB devices light up. They become dark when profile loading starts, and then light up at the end of the boot. I can't remember W7 doing that - anything known about that?
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  5.    20 Aug 2015 #15
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    Windows 10

    If you look under the services window, you will see several services that are designated as "Delayed Start" and "Trigger Start". These services that load after a delay.
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  6.    20 Aug 2015 #16
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    Posts : 31
    Windows 10 Home 64

    Clean install of W10 on my desktop pc. Windows 7 (I missed out the 8s) was always pretty fast but 10 is dead slow. I get the Asus Screen then the post sound then the black screen with the blue window graphic and the circle of dots. After about 12 secs I get the blue metro menu (I have Macrium as second choice) then i get a black screen for about 10 secs then the logon (pin) screen. After I enter my pin I get the circle of dots for about 8 to 10 secs before the desktop appears.

    Drivers are up to date.

    Samsung 850 Evo and 16 gb ram.
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  7.    20 Aug 2015 #17
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    windows 7

    do we have anyone on this forum actually trained in Windows 10? [serious question, not a dig] - I have no idea what to do with the MMC/Eventlogs/Applications&Services/Windows/Operational info. If someone could help decode we might make progress in helping one another out. image below:
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    as best I can tell most if not all of these errors are internal to windows: windows services that for a variety of reasons miss timing thresholds and get tagged
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  8.    20 Aug 2015 #18
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    Windows 10

    I am far from an expert on Windows, but here is some information that can help.


    Event ID 100 is essentially a list of time taken by specific steps during the boot process. Expanding that particular warning and comparing the Windows between different occasions off ID 100 will help you identify steps that are causing delays.
    Event ID 101 10x refer to specifically outlined events/processes etc. that have caused unexpected boot delays. These warnings pretty much always point to a particular program.
    Event ID 200 is the warning related to shut down processes. Very similar to event ID 100, comparison of different occurrences of event ID 200 can help highlight areas of delay.
    Event ID 201 20x are very similar to the event ID 101 10x and help pinpoint specific system delays.


    Event IDs 100 Generally tend to occur when the boot process exceeds 20 seconds. Once they disappear you have achieved Boot nirvana. Most of the time they will be present. Don't be surprised if over time, as Windows tunes itself, these lags/delays will tend to disappear with no effort on your part.


    The number off 100 200 errors showing on your post are not excessive however expanding each of these warnings will give a lot more information regarding the length of delays associated with them. Try posting your last batch of errors in the expanded format.
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  9.    20 Aug 2015 #19
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    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    What I noticed right now: I did a cold boot - I mean I turned off the computer at 23:00 and then turned it on now, at 03:00. The boot was lightning fast, just like it ever was in W7. From first sign of W10 sign until ready desktop probably around 15 seconds.

    Why did that happen? The common messages that usually appear in Eventlog were not there, however I did get:

    Faulting application name: ShellExperienceHost.exe, version: 10.0.10525.0, time stamp: 0x55cc09c6
    Faulting module name: StartUI.dll, version: 10.0.10525.0, time stamp: 0x55cc0217

    and
    A timeout was reached (30000 milliseconds) while waiting for the Steam Client Service service to connect.
    and
    The Steam Client Service service failed to start due to the following error:
    The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion.

    But the computer started really fast.

    Is there any difference between "restart" and "shutdown" in W10?
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  10.    20 Aug 2015 #20
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    Airdrie, Scotland
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    Windows 10 Pro x64, Linux

    Is there any difference between "restart" and "shutdown" in W10?

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    "Fast Startup (aka: hybrid boot or hybrid Shutdown) is a new feature in Windows 8 to help your PC start up faster after shutting down. When turned on, Windows 8 does this by using a hybrid shutdown (a partial hibernate) method that saves only the kernal session and device drivers (system information) to the hibernate (hiberfil.sys) file on disk instead of closing it when you shut down your PC. This also makes the hiberfil.sys file to be much smaller than what hibernate would use (often 4GB or more). When you start your PC again, Windows 8 uses that saved system information to resume your system instead of having to do a cold boot to fully restart it. Using this technique with boot gives a significant advantage for boot times, since reading the hiberfile in and reinitializing drivers is much faster on most systems (30-70% faster on most systems tested). If you have a motherboard with UEFI, then fast startup will be even faster."

    I know SSD space conscious individuals who turn off fast start up and delete hiberfil to save upto 10GB or more on Win 8.1. It appears to be less on 10 approx 6GB.
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