Optimization not available suddenly on SSD

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  1. Posts : 299
    Windows 10
       #11

    Word Man, my apologies if I came across as "calling you out". I was concerned if there was a credible source that had seen Windows actually defragging SSD's. Just glad to hear that is not the case. Your posts are very helpful and if I came across wrong, my apologies.
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  2. Posts : 1,567
    Windows 10 Pro
       #12

    Snakeyes said:
    Word Man, my apologies if I came across as "calling you out". I was concerned if there was a credible source that had seen Windows actually defragging SSD's. Just glad to hear that is not the case. Your posts are very helpful and if I came across wrong, my apologies.
    Not a problem. I do need to work on and update my cyberlanguage skills as the only constant seems to be change therein.
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  3. Posts : 5
    Windows 10 64bit pro
    Thread Starter
       #13

    I've managed to solve this issue with updating the AHCI driver indeed like some of you suggested.

    I've noticed that the controller for AHCI was using default Windows drivers dating back to 2006 I think.. I've googled around and found this really great page: Intel RST/RSTe Drivers (newest: v14.6.0.1029 WHQL/v4.3.0.1198 WHQL)

    On the site everything is explained and there is quite a few drivers. I think I've choosen the latest one with IastorA.sys because my chipset is the older ICH10R one. After this TRIM and optimize is not shadowed anymore and everything is working.

    Hope somebody will help himself with this,
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  4. Posts : 14
    Win 10
       #14

    I noticed in post #6 that it is supposed to run weekly, but it has not run in 20 days. Mine was the same way, had not run in 19 days but set for weekly. Maybe they actually meant "weakly". Har-de-har. Another MS mystery.
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  5. Posts : 299
    Windows 10
       #15

    Word Man said:
    I provided that in post # 5 - although you're right to call me out on casually using the word "defrag", that was a mistake on my part - there are other things Windows will do besides trim, I think the term "garbage collection" is applicable. I'll have to refresh myself on the terminology before spouting again.

    See "Conclusion" in the referred link. I think, although I read this thoroughly some time back, his use of the phrase "a kind of defragmentation" threw me into the error - mine nonetheless.
    Word Man, I owe you a very big apology. I found the following article, cannot vouch for its accuracy, but makes an interesting read and raises the possibility of Windows 10 actually defragging SSD's under certain specific conditions (shadow copy).
    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman

    Teaches me a lesson in shooting my mouth off, even if this attached article is off the mark.
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  6. Posts : 1,567
    Windows 10 Pro
       #16

    Snakeyes said:
    Word Man, I owe you a very big apology. I found the following article, cannot vouch for its accuracy, but makes an interesting read and raises the possibility of Windows 10 actually defragging SSD's under certain specific conditions (shadow copy).
    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman

    Teaches me a lesson in shooting my mouth off, even if this attached article is off the mark.
    Yep, that's the same article I posted a link to in post # 5. It's all good, no worries. It looks like a lot of people are alarmed and concerned that, even though the label has changed on this interface to the more generic "optimize" (I reckon "optimise" in Queen's English), current Windows versions will do a full on files defragmentation, relocation, and disk consolidation as is done for HDDs - I don't think that's the case. Hanselman's article and some others I've read say that it will on occasion do a bit more than simply TRIM an SSD, perhaps only defragging the MFT. Anyways, looks like OP got the mystery resolved and is OK now.
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  7. Posts : 123,278
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 21H2 Build 22000.675
       #17

    My SSD is made by Intel SSD 520 series 240GB and I turned OFF letting Windows 10 optimize my ssd weeks ago. I just checked and Windows has done nothing to my ssd. I have always used the Intel toolbox to trim my ssd. I have their latest release installed, which always includes latest drivers too. I prefer to use the utility that is made from who made my ssd then allow windows 10 to do anything to my ssd. Just my 2 cents on this issue.
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  8. Posts : 299
    Windows 10
       #18

    OldMike65 said:
    My SSD is made by Intel SSD 520 series 240GB and I turned OFF letting Windows 10 optimize my ssd weeks ago. I just checked and Windows has done nothing to my ssd. I have always used the Intel toolbox to trim my ssd. I have their latest release installed, which always includes latest drivers too. I prefer to use the utility that is made from who made my ssd then allow windows 10 to do anything to my ssd. Just my 2 cents on this issue.


    Oh ye of little faith! I presume you're not interested in buying some ownership in the Brooklyn Bridge from me, either?
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  9. Posts : 123,278
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 21H2 Build 22000.675
       #19

    Snakeyes said:
    Oh ye of little faith! I presume you're not interested in buying some ownership in the Brooklyn Bridge from me, either?
    Well Snakeyes you should know that I am also a New England Patriots fan, so have no interest in anything from NY
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  10. Posts : 299
    Windows 10
       #20

    Damn! I should have known. Giants and Yankees fan here. Let's agree to hate each other. Even though, I think Brady is getting a raw deal and Belichick is awesome.
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